The other interesting thing to me is that the national reporters like Kendall Rogers don’t seem to be predicting BOC to Miss St (yet). If they start saying there’s smoke then I think it’s likely done and they are holding the announcement. With the A&M stuff last year, weren’t the national reports pretty informed about BOC’s interest? All the talk is from Miss St right now.
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Yes and that’s part of why things are so odd on this one.
Now, Kendall is supposed to be writing an article on the state of the search for State, but he was going to post one a couple days ago that never came to fruition either.
It seems to me that Kendall, and the rest of industry, are probably going to come down on hearing similar things to the State side of the coin.
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https://x.com/kendallrogers/status/1927829821482017051?s=46&t=IIkkMqQ8qIBkUJTInsw88Q
Rogers did say this on Twitter yesterday, and this seems to be the consensus based on reading MSU’s 247 and on3 boards. Their side is very confident but not a done deal quite yet, and they expect a verdict either way by Monday.
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Look I want to keep Oak and I 100% understand why he would be using these offers to get more out of Carla, but it’s somewhat tiring to deal with this every offseason. Would be curious to get specific details on what he got from Carla last year to feel comfortable turning down A&M that he might not be getting now.
I’ll admit I’m starting to think about potential replacements. Even if it’s not now, it doesn’t seem sustainable for us to keep doing this. It’s definitely something that can be used against us in recruiting. At a certain point Oak is either happy where he is or he isn’t.
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It was all laid out in a long post on the Sabre some time ago, which summarized BOC’s words on where we stand from an investment perspective. We’re giving women’s basketball a cut of the revenue share instead of baseball. And we’re not able/willing to fully fund as many scholarships as other top ACC programs and all of the SEC. So basically, despite being the best program in the ACC for two decades, and top 10 (maybe top 5?) nationally, BOC is being underfunded relative to ACC peers and the entire SEC. Some of that appears to be self-inflicted (giving rev share to our unproven women’s basketball coach) and some of that seems to stem from that fact that baseball doesn’t seem to have that small group of mega donors who will pay whatever is necessary to fund an elite program, like we have for basketball.
Some of that might be off and maybe UVA is trying to secure more funding or has already done so and this won’t actually end up happening
“The MSU smoke is very real.”
I’m not usually a baseball insider but this is the text I got before reading what has been posted here. Color me worried.
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It seems like the smoke is starting to hit multiple UVA sources now.
Guessing he accepted already. Maybe hearing a last offer from UVA but I doubt it’s anything substantive. If we could fund the program how other top programs have said they will then we would’ve already done so
Having our elite baseball coach poached by the VT of the SEC is just fucking brutal
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Baseball isn’t fully funded? I thought it was reported above or on another thread that it was. 25 ships plus 5% rev share? Not the case?
Maybe this too optimistic of a view but I do wonder if losing Oak would be a wake up call not just to the AD but to the donor base as well. It eliminates the urge to say “but you’ve done so well with the resources we’ve given you” and makes it clear additional commitment is needed. Obviously there is the real risk no one steps up but given the support we’ve gotten on football and basketball, I think people get the drill by now.
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I get the thought process, but if that’s the wake up call then it came wayyyyyyy too late.
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I will say to MSU’s credit they dump a shit ton of money into baseball. Top 10 in resources and funding in the country.
With that being said I will not be a happy camper if it’s funding from our side that’s the reason for BOC jumping ship, unless he was asking for something we literally could not provide.
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The advantage SEC schools have, besides having more money in general, is that they all sponsor way fewer sports and tuition/housing is less expensive, so fully funding every roster spot in every sport with a scholarship costs way less for them than it does for us.
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Top 10 in resources and funding pre-NIL looks very different than post-NIL, imo.
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Miss St promising to be in top 5 nationally in NIL funding. Quite literally impossible for UVA to match. Miss St will be treating their baseball program like we do basketball. This one looks done.
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Agree, this isn’t Tony retiring, it’s letting Tony go to UCLA or Wisconsin then saying, opps, our bad.
Also prob bc MSU is gonna maybe prioritize BB at the expense of the other BB. We are not gonna go there. Their donors prob prefer baseball
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My main question is why jump ship now, and not last season for A&M who has virtually unlimited money.
Because he probably now knows exactly what the rev sharing distribution is going to look like here.
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Timing and a baseball school (and obviously what @Foresthoo said)
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