I hope Tony doesn’t know this
I wonder how much of that is defense-related. Fewer shot clock violations, more quick buckets given up, etc.
I believe we had the most fast break points in Bennett’s tenure this year. 2010 was definitely defensive-related, even with a 35-second shot clock at the time.
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The Ryan Dunn Effect
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Did Rohde play PG for the Tommies? I haven’t watched video in a few weeks now, but I thought he was more of a playmaker than a PG. I.e., not the primary ball handler. I know these convos ultimately lead to quibbling about labels…
PG position is full of maybes and hopefully for next year:
- a guy who’s maybe coming back and can hopefully be more of an alpha dawg** if he does (Reece)
- a guy who played PG at a bad power 5 team, and shot very poorly, but can hopefully become more efficient here (Dante)
- a guy who played some PG (subject to Q above) in a bad league and can hopefully do it decently at the ACC level (Rohde)
- a good SG who needs PG skills if he wants to play in the NBA, and therefore hopefully Tony let’s him expand his role there (iMac)
- a high level SG recruit who didn’t play his senior year and has mostly played with actual NBA caliber PGs (or at least all power conference candidates), who we hope can expand his ballhandling / playmaking (Elijah)
- a guy who had the ball in his hands at his HS a fair amount, but also played alongside a true PG (Jacoi something?) a good bit of the time, and who will maybe come here (Cain)
- maybe maybe maybe (but probably not) a Bliss-ful reclass?
I really hope one of those options works out! And with all the options, I suspect something will. (Would probably put my money on Reece)
** do we like alpha dawg better than its constituent parts? @Hoos9412
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Yo, dude, stay on topic
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It’s worth breaking down what we mean by PG. It’s a few things, not all as important as others for a back-up:
- Able to have sufficient handles where pressure doesn’t make you a turnover machine
- Initiate the offense
- Have court vision to facilitate good looks
- Be a scorer (Tony wants this out of the main ball handlers)
- On ball defense of other PGs, often smaller dudes
Potentially could lump 2 and 3 together, but they are distinct skill wise in important ways.
For Rohde, his tape suggests he can fulfill 2, 3, 4 roles. Maybe most questions on 2. That’s far better than iMac or other options people have thrown out in the past (Franklin, especially).
The biggest questions for Rohde are 1 and 5. 5 can be shared by others (e.g., Gertrude on ball). 1 probably can’t.
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lol only after I posted my stuff I realized this was the Anthony Robinson thread not the Andrew Rohde thread. Going to copy it over there.
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This is a very good framework. What TB wants out of his PGs is somewhat different from like Steve Forbes or Kevin Keatts (to pick two heavy ball-screen teams). The big difference in my mind is that the offenses TB has run tend to benefit from ALL of the guards to be capable of #1-5 in this framework. Of course that doesn’t always happen, but I suspect the difference between the PG role and non-PG guard role in the ideal TB roster is smaller than it would be in one of the high ball-screen reliant teams.
I’m optimistic about Rohde’s ability to do #1, since his TO-rate was good for someone that high-usage. I would expect some up-tick in TOs given the step-up in competition, but it might get balanced out some by not being asked to be as much of a high-usage player.
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Would add: has the ability to make teammates better (know when where to get certain guys the ball etc)
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That’s a fascinating stat. Thank you!
Nothing too in-depth, but just some blunt force analysis on the theory that guys come to UVa and by some mechanism (more assisted shots? lower usage so therefore higher quality shots? Better surrounding talent?) improve their offensive efficiency. This has been discussed somewhat about Rohde, and probably more about Dante Harris.
Don’t have time to show my work, but basically, it’s a mixed bag, and there’s not a clear directional trend. Nigel and BVP’s UVa stats were towards the bottom for them. Gill’s and Brax’s (except for 19-20 injury) and TM3’s UVa careers are probably the best examples of some combo of those things causing higher offensive efficiency. Jayden is close, but his numbers bounced around, and Armaan was a good example this year, and a bad example last year.
I think the better hope for Rohde is just development / trendline (shot better at the end of the year). Brax, albeit at a totally different position, did some of what we might hope for Harris, but also important to remember that Brax was a top 75 guy who left a decent situation (NIT and round 2 of the tourney in his 2 years) and played with 3 guys who were drafted.
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I think the hope with Rohde is he doesn’t actually need to improve? He’s already there and his season long %’s just look worse because of the freshman adjustment period rather than any issue with his shot?
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I think that’s the hope, but just looking purely at stats, you’d want him to be improving, not just holding steady. And the constant improvement thing seems to be a bit of a talking point here that I don’t really see in the data.
From the data, it looks like he had a decent start, a really crappy January (maybe injury? maybe too many … wait for it … rohdes?), and a good end. (sort the link below on 3pt% to see what I’m looking at)
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If you have too much time on your hands, here’s every player that transferred from a mid major to a high major in Torvik’s database, with their stats at the new school displayed (filtered to include only players that had 15 games played at their new school):
So in theory you could look at how guys’ stats have translated when moving up in competition. You could even set more specific conference filters to look at all Summit League players or to look at how mid major players have translated to the ACC.
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That’s awesome. I will play around with that.
Just looking at three point percentage, I see 32% for the season, but:
4/9 (44.4% for his last game)
8/16 (50% for his last 2 games combined)
11/24 (45.8% for his last 3 games combined)
12/30 (40% for his last 4 games combined)
14/34 (41.2% for his last 5 games combined)
15/38 (39.5% for his last 6 games combined)
19/46 (41.3% for his last 7 games combined)
21/50 (42% for his last 8 games combined)
21/52 (40.4% for his last 9 games combined)
25/61 (41% for his last 10 games combined)
28/67 (41.8% for his last 11 games combined)
Before that, he was 28/108 (25.9%) from three point range.
Obviously, that’s just one (big) part of his game, but that seems like a pretty significant improvement for the freshman in the final 11 games of the season.
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Is it safe to assume that OOC schedule was more difficult competition, closer in equivalence to that in the ACC, than opponents in his conference schedule at end of season?
So I’m all likelihood he’ll shoot closer to 26% here, meaning we should redshirt him
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TIC, I assume 
Looking at the best teams they played (by far), he was:
3/8 against Creighton (37.5%)
2/5 against Utah (40%)
3/7 against Montana State (42.9%)
2/7 against Oral Roberts (game #1) (28.6%)
4/8 against Oral Roberts (game #2) (50%)
4/9 against Oral Roberts (game #3) (44.4%)
Overall: 18/44 (40.9%)
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Just looked up his EYBL stats and found this article, too. So, no specific number, but it says he shot at least 40% from three point land on at least 50 attempts.
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