đŸ«§ Bubble Watch

nope, just seems to love bracketology and is pushing back against people who are hung up on the Virginia scoring vibes.

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Sith Davis continues to display his over the top UVA bias

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Cuse alum I believe. So not entirely objective in his ACC push

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It’s just a weird team
. No Acc team had ever lost 5 games by 20 or more and had a winning Acc record
 historical.

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We are in. Lock

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A question for the bracketologists in our group
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May have been mentioned already, but I’m curious. Does Florida State/The ACC being snubbed by the College Playoff Committee help us at all? Probably not but am wondering if that gives us any small advantage from a conference perspective if they are evaluating whether 2 or 3 teams get in should it come to that? Can’t crush the ACC twice on twice on committee-related decisions-right?

I realize it is a different sport, and independent from Football, but it can’t hurt I don’t think. No clue.

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You’d have to think, while likely not openly discussed, it is in the back of their minds. FYI here is this year’s cmte. ACC rep is UNC AD Bubba Cunningham.

NCAA Tournament Selection Committee | Hoops HD

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Of course the company line will be of course not.

Of course humans are humans but my guess is the people in that room selecting the field will care less if they tick off the ACC. Bubba will only care so much. UNC is in and probably leaving the ACC soon anyway.

So my answer would be very doubtful it has any impact.

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Bubba will got to bat for us if that is needed

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Love that question and while I understand what @Raleigh_Hoo I could see it playing a slightly bigger role. Of course that’s the sort of under the table dealing that we would never get the full story on.

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All these things (conference seed, how many teams a conference gets, the FSU football snub) are explicitly not considered.

The fact that every ACC #3 has gotten in doesn’t prove they’re considered either. Most years the ACC is better, and it’s #3 is has much better efficiency metrics.

I’m not saying they won’t be considered, but we have to get into the realm of conspiracies to consider it. i.e. The committee lies about what it considers. Or at least the members delude themselves and consider things subconsciously that they can’t admit to themselves they consider.

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Hav has always been a master at uncovering conspiracies. He had a feeling our landlady on Monroe Lane wasnt the actual owner of our house The Shitter our 3rd year

And wow was he right @chavlicek15

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No one would ever admit to considering it.

It’s still a lot of mental hurdles to subconsciously (or consciously) jump over to go through all of these narrow tie breakers and leave out a pedigree ACC team with a future HoF coach that finished 3rd in the conference and doesn’t have any bad marks on the resume other than margin of defeat for like a 9th Big 12 team or whatever with all of the noise about inflating NET rankings and even what happened with FSU in football.

A lot of that stuff they’re not supposed to consider
 but I think you’d have to suspend a lot of disbelief to think it doesn’t creep into the decision making from a human nature perspective.

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It’s not a conspiracy to understand that humans are beholden to all kinds of implicit biases that they may not even be able to articulate themselves, let alone admit to. Pretty solidly backed by science.

In a toss up, Virginia starts to look prettier because they know that Virginia is a P5 program finishing top 3 in a storied league. They may not even admit this to themselves, but it will do some work.

The same way the media environment around a fun upstart Indiana State team will subtly influence the picture. Again, not in extreme ways but in certain toss ups it absolutely could.

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This 100% happens lol just a matter of whether we are correct about what they consider without realizing

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On the Indiana St thing, the media-narrative machine is in full power mode. I was watching various small conference semis/finals last night (Samford, College of Charleston, etc.). A couple were on CBS-affiliated broadcasting. Pretty much every announcer mentioned, more than once, that “Indiana St. is an NCAAT team and I think they should be/are in. They had a tough, tough loss to a very good Drake team. But this Indiana St team is so fun to watch.” etc. etc.

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For sure. And honestly I want them in, too, from a fan perspective. From a deserving perspective, I think it depends on how things shake out elsewhere on the bubble. It’s way too early to say “they should be in.” But alas.

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Betting odds continue to shift in our favor, now +128/-172 (~40% implied?). Nova has been moving the other way at the same time, now -108/-122. There is really no new information since the +200 or so we saw this wknd. Would be curious how it shifts once we know our QF opponent

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Yep, +150 is exactly 40% implied

Also Indiana state has dropped from +194 to +140, @Raleigh_Hoo must have dropped some :moneybag:

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