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My point, not stated explicitly, was more about long term viability of ACC vs SEC. Less about current competitiveness. All other things equal, I think you’d rather be in the SEC than the ACC if one of your concerns is conference stability.

My understanding from LRA forums is that they have pretty deep NIL pockets. It’s a top 20 university, not unlike Duke in its reputation. It plays in the most well-funded, highest revenue generating conference in the country. It’s in Nashville which I realize has its detractors, but its a city a lot of people find to have a great quality of life…and there’s potentially a strong fan base if they can play well (check out a Vandy baseball game if you want an example of what fan support could be). It’s a good gig for sure. Is it Kansas, Kentucky, UNC? Of course not. Does it have a lot of positives that could make it hard to pull him out, yes.

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Our arena is way better

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Without knowing anything, I’m guessing it just depends on how much Byington sentimentally values the Virginia job and whether Virginia can fork over the cash. Sentimental stuff or an idealized idea of the UVa job is probably enough to overcome burned bridges. Doubt conference considerations and $ alone would do it.

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I think he’s ours if we’re willing to pay whatever the buyout is, just tough to say the overall likelihood since we don’t know that number.

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If you want NCAAT, best to stick with VCU.

I looked at the 2016, 2017 and 2018 Pitt 990s to see what they paid Vanderbilt for Kevin Stallings’ buyout, but found nothing related to that in those. But Vandy might’ve eliminated his buyout since they were tired of him by then.

The bio for one of his jobs also noted that he did obtain a Masters degree at UVA too.

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I was reading the Vandy 247 board last night looking at the timeframe when Stackhouse left and Byington was hired.

I didn’t come across contract details from Byington like I had hoped (looking for his buyout info). But they had a range on what it cost Vandy to buyout Stackhouse and that was $15M to $26M. With that type of cash potentially on the table, I don’t know that I’d roll the dice on any other job if I may expect a windfall like that if Vandy had to buy me out.

The $26M number came from their board’s version of Jacque from UVA’s 247 site. Crazy times.

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Trilly claimed recently that Vanderbilt has ā€œmore money than Godā€ and is going all in on Football Basketball Baseball. Whatever that means

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They’re definitely doing a baseball stadium renovation. A lot of the SEC had dropped a good deal of money into their baseball stadiums lately.

Vandy had a leg up in baseball for a minute by using their school financial aid (Vandy’s Opportunity Scholarship that was open to all students) so that no player on the roster had to pay to go there. UVA had something on a much smaller scale with Access UVA at one point. But the rules have changed regarding financial aid for non full scholarship athletes in recent years that blunted some of Vandy’s edge there.

The best thing they could do from a baseball point of view is to pay the two whistlers (still two, the death story about one was a well done hoax) a ton of money to go away or to sit in booths that sound cannot escape.

NIL and revenue sharing will certainly help them fight off MLB Draft signing bonuses better than most assuming Trilly is accurate (no reason to believe otherwise). Thankfully the playing field across the SEC has leveled so that Vandy isn’t the premier team any longer and ESPN has backed off their Vandy baseball love for just garden variety SEC baseball love. Because Vandy baseball and Duke basketball are basically indistinguisable to me as far as my level of contemp.

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One thing that would go a long way in helping lure a new coach to UVA is giving him some flexibility with senior transfers. Unless we’re going to 5 years of eligibility, God help us, it’s pretty important in basketball to be able to get those 1 year guys.

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It was slightly surprising that they got Warley as a senior year transfer (briefly, I guess). Was there something specific about his situation that made it work?

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If that renovation doesn’t come with two clear, sound-proof boxes for the Whistlers, then it’s both pointless and worthless.

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I don’t know how it was supposed to work with Warley. There’s rumors that he could graduate from FSU somehow, no clue. I think it took a while to figure out because his visit was delayed.

If you don’t care about graduating from UVA, it doesn’t matter. That’s the loophole I guess.

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ngl I didn’t realize Shaka had that in him, it kinda makes me like him more lol

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ā€œCongratulationsā€

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That was the buyout Vandy had to pay to fire Stackhouse which is different (and usually much larger) than the buyout Stackhouse would’ve had to pay to leave Vanderbilt for another job.

That’s one thing I’ve learned from reading Tony Elliott and now way too many college coaches contracts.

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Wow!

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