đŸ—ș Potential ACC Expansion & Conference Realignment

Nelly Oleson was the greatest villain of my childhood

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For those too young to remember, Nellie was basically Lucius Malfoy of the prairie. And her mom was Draco. Her dad was cool though. Whipped but cool

Anyway, conference realignment


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Once the call started, it became clear that would not be the case. No official vote was taken. In straw polling, the fourth school opposed was NC State, according to multiple sources.

Six other schools had discussions with Florida State about the grant of rights and charting a path forward: Clemson, Miami, Virginia, Virginia Tech, North Carolina and NC State.

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What was certain was there were votes in favor of expansion (Notre Dame, Wake Forest, Louisville, Miami, Georgia Tech) and votes opposed (Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina) and swing votes in between.

Some good tidbits in here about power dynamics and blocs and considerations. Worth the read.

I find it interesting that Miami was a yes on expansion (not an on-the-fencer like most). Shows that the so-called Magnificent Seven aren’t necessarily the 7 most wanting to get out. They’re maybe the most proactive in looking for solutions, doesn’t mean they’re all agreed on what to do though.

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https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/1692237478537707726

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Even if all 6 of the on-the-fencers voted in favor, to make this happen they’d still need to get a yes vote from one of the 4 previous no votes: Clemson, FSU, UNC, NC State. Maybe the sweetener is the conference agrees to unequal revenue distribution? Otherwise I don’t see how any of those schools flip.

I’d hope we would flip to no if they did unequal distribution

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David Teel on X: “No one knows the Pac and Bay Area like Jon.” / X (twitter.com)

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you’re not doing a revote unless you think you have the votes to accept them.

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Which of these schools is most likely to vote in favor of adding Cal & Stanford?

  • Clemson
  • Florida State
  • North Carolina
  • NC State
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I would have voted none of the above but chose from the 4 available

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I did that deliberately :slight_smile:

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I am thoroughly confused by the whole thing, but I’d peg the odds at, in order:

  • no vote at all
  • Vote to accept, with only 2 no-votes
  • Unanimous vote to accept

Not sure why, but I don’t think we see a squeaker (but in this poll, fwiw, I voted NC State). Also should add, I think a vote to accept with just Clemson and FSU voting against, is not a good fact. That would mean the ACC’s two biggest earners (to use Sopranos jargon) are not committed to the future of the league, and the rest of the league is willing to publicly show they don’t care.

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I voted UNC, but if it’s true that NC State is just doing whatever UNC says
 then the odds are identical.

Mostly though I have absolutely no clue.

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I wonder if having them join as football only members is something that is on the table. Basically a reverse Notre Dame and a lower revenue share. Would solve the travel issues and still maybe benefit all parties?

Cal and Stanford would just have to find a home for all of their other sports (Big West? Mountain West?). Would probably be a major blow to those sports, but what other options do they have?

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No idea if that’s on the table or even feasible, but I kinda like it, and it may help lead to the break-up of football and hoops, which might be good
 (or, it might be bad).

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ACC adding Stanford and Cal would be really lame and provide minimal benefit. It’s such a sad, desperate attempt to avoid admitting defeat in the conference arms race. A panic move void of any real thought beyond “bigger is better”

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They’ll do like all the west coast nfl teams do on an east coast back to back and stay and the Greenbrier for two weeks.

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This is how I feel about most ideas people have about conference realignment.

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