For that matter, Dallas is closer to Galveston and the Gulf than Blacksburg is to Virginia Beach and the Atlantic. And unless you want to count Lake Ontario, Dallas is also closer to the Atlantic than Syracuse is to water. Louisville would remain the only college in a state that doesnāt border an ocean.
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Huh. I suppose the good news is the āa decision one way or another is expected early this weekā so at least itāll be resolved soon.
Iām guessing this adds, what, $2-3M in operational expenses flying all those teams back and forth cross-country?
What would the new name be? All Champions Conference (RIP conference of champions so someone needs to take the mantle) and kick out Pitt and VT?
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I wish them a joyous stay in this B level conference after we leave.
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https://twitter.com/nicoleauerbach/status/1696265980681601351?s=46&t=uPM2rzyuGmHaJt9Bm21pkw
https://twitter.com/nicoleauerbach/status/1696230007872360560?s=46&t=uPM2rzyuGmHaJt9Bm21pkw
āThere also is ongoing discussion about how much Notre Dame should share in the added money the league will receive from the new schools.ā
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Exactly. If this is about football, and the performance-based apportionment is football-based, then the Irish should get nothing. And like it.
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ND should get nothing extra from football. They already got Stanford as a freebie game for them every 3-4 years. Maybe they can share in the non-football windfall to defray additional travel expenses, but itās more fun to have ND de facto subsidizing FSU given their now ancient history.
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I just read Eamon Brennanās piece on this. He points out that if you just divide the money up, each current ACC school gets like $3.6M. My envelope math says the expansion increases UVAās athletic expenses by around $2m/year. So, if they give everyone $2m to cover increases costs (or whatever the right amount is), thereās only around $20M extra to hand out, and it could be even less if Iāve underestimated the numbers.
There just isnāt that much more to hand out, after covering travel for every single soccer/baseball/softball/volleyball/swim/wrestling/etc team flying out to CA and TX.
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I donāt think we are getting a full accounting of the numbers in that. Is that just the ESPN extra $$ or does it include the carriage fees from ACCN in more markets? Thereās a lot of moving parts here, and I think that back of the envelope math probably is missing some stuff. So call that option #1 (that Eamonās numbers are a stark undercount).
The other options are :
- (2) thatās pretty much just the math, and ACC schools are thinking about other considerations (keeping the football schools happy, adding more members in case of defection, etc.)
- (3) ACC presidents and ADs are super dumb and they are acting incoherently (at least the ones voting for expansion)
I donāt discount #3, and even if theyāre not being dumb, they are just bad as predicting the future as the rest of us. For the record, I really would rather ACC hoops stay more or less the same, plus maybe Maryland, minus about 4 games (back to 16). But I get there are other considerations hereā¦
Also, am I hallucinating that there may have been a ājust football and hoopsā option bandied about?
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Adding Cal, Stanford and SMU is not a great idea. But not adding anyone is worse.
I think weāre close to the point where any conference with fewer than 15 members will be considered a āmid-major.ā
EDITED: To correct ā5ā to the much more reasonable ā15.ā
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I would like to put out there any conference that has fewer than 5 members is just a collection it does not deserve the title or privileges of a conference.
I also agree that at this point while Cal etc. arenāt ideal they are absolutely necessary and unless thereās another legit P5 school looking to jump ship the ACC needs to just grab onto what they can
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Supposedly ESPN was going to kick in some new money to help defray additional travel costs.
What I find interesting is originally Stanford and Cal were going to take roughly a 60% share and SMU would forego payments for 5 years. Now itās a 30% share and 7 years. I guess those schools got more desperate in the past few weeks.
I mean 30% is maybe 10 mil/year and then a few mil in additional travel costs of flying cross country for every single road trip for every sport (while the current ACC members add maybe 1 west coast trip a year per sport replacing maybe a trip to Boston or Miami or something - is that even 2 mil a year?). Are Cal/Stanford even better off in the ACC at 30% than the MWC or independents?
Also, there should be additional carriage fees for ACC Network from subscribers in California and Texas since those would be deemed home markets now, prompting the pricing change.
https://twitter.com/rossdellenger/status/1689269888563523585?s=46&t=KRUvpbKQ9s5_3BPeM0gClg
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Smu has the cash, might as well let them in. The conference is already watered down, letās just East Carolina, App State and Vmi while weāre at it.
Smmfh
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Putting ACC games in theaters will close the gap lol
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This is a dumb pointless question Iām guessing nobody - except maybe @jazznutUVA - knows the answer to, but do ACC games get broadcast overseas? And where, and are those rights negotiated separately? Was just wondering if you can enjoy a classic Wake Forest-Syracuse ACC football game in Chile or Japan (Iām sure thereās massive interest).
Somewhat relatedly, @jazznutUVA, do you know if AFN has relationships with any of the conference networks like the BIG10 network or ACC Network? Been a long time since I was regularly watching AFN, so donāt know what their content looks like now, but was curious.
Little known fact: VMI is closer to the Atlantic coast than Stanford.
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