šŸ—ŗ Potential ACC Expansion & Conference Realignment

I can’t remember if anyone mentioned it, but part of the reason the GOR even exists is because after Maryland left without having to pay very much, everyone freaked out and wanted something to ensure conference stability. Hence, the GOR. ESPN wanted a long contract to justify their high initial costs to create the ACC Network, hence the long-ass GOR.

The contract, at the time, was praised because it was the largest or 2nd largest per school payout of any conference. This has obviously aged poorly and will continue to do so.

I can’t remember Clemson and FSU’s position on the TV deal and the GOR, but presumably they both signed it. Now they both have buyer’s remorse.

I blame everything on Maryland.

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There is some poetic justice in the fact that the ACC set all of this in motion by raiding the Big East, freaked out when UMd left, and set up the cage that prevents them from adapting as all power in college athletics starts to collect in two rival conferences. Somewhere Mike Tranghese is smiling.

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Or at least trying to:

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What’s adapting though? Without the cage, the ACC would be in a similar position as the PAC and Big XII. The ACC’s most valuable schools would’ve been raided already and the remaining ones would be jockeying with the PAC and Big XII for table scraps.

Its very likely that we would’ve been part of the exodus and wouldn’t even be concerned about the fate of the ACC. We’d be fighting to stay out of the B1G or SEC football basement while trying to keep up with their arms races in basketball.

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That could be the scenario without the cage. On the other hand now we wait and get picked off in 12 years, assuming that by then the schools will have anything worth selling. The money gap is going to have a big effect. There are too many D1 schools to fit into two conferences. Ultimately the GOR keeps everyone together, but it also ties the conference’s hands in doing anything to become a somewhat competitive third option (which is exactly what Big 12 is trying to do).

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Other. I see: ā€œNerdsā€

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Somebody explain this to me as if I were 5 years old. Does the Big Ten make more from their TV deals or where is it coming from?

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1659626983205027870

25% is from royalties from the trademark on the number ā€œ10ā€.

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Thanks. That’s the future deal as opposed to the current difference but yeah you answered the question. All about TV rights.

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Yeah, it’s mostly TV. The Tier I,II,III media rights plus bowl/college football playoff and NCAA b-ball tourney payouts (which are indirectly TV). Ticket sales from conference b-ball tourney and football championship game plus some gate revenue sharing are much smaller pools.

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ESPN’s David Hale reported over the weekend that the ACC was looking at Oregon, SMU, Washington, and West Virginia as possible expansion targets.

Not sure how much sense it makes but just passing it along …

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I’m sure the ACC would love to add those four schools so it can stay alive past the next 5-10 years. Whether or not it’s actually plausible is a completely different story.

I’d be very surprised if the ACC was able to add any current Power 5 teams to the conference now after the shitshow that was last week.

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I mean, I know climate change is bad, but I think even the most pessimistic scientist believes it’s going to take a few millennia before the Atlantic coast reaches Oregon.

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Man its getting crazy. Hearing chatter on other boards that Liberty U wants to join the magnificent 7 and break up the ACC to form a new conference and Liberty U will bankroll it. They probably could bankroll it. A few billion dollars is nothing to them.

Seems some high stakes chess is taking place … crazy if true.

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That’s probably the worst idea floating around out there. Setting aside my total disdain for Liberty U, that’s a conference that will NOT attract significant media revenue to make it competitive with the B1G and SEC.

There’s only one viable option to remain financially competitive and that is to latch on to one of the two super conferences. Everything else is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

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If UVA joined a conference with liberty I might stop watching college sports

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WVU might be interested (geographically they are an island in the Big12 footprint, and the money difference is negligible). SMU would listen (ACC would make more sense than the PAC right now). Oregon and Washington seem like they would wait to see if the BIG offers. The only way Pacific coast teams would work is if you brought in four to six of them. The ACC could go for broke and try for those four along with Cal and Stanford (maybe two others as well).

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This. I don’t even like playing them.

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Seems like we should just take the whole Pac 12. Have two coastal divisions with some light inter-divisional play, and have the division champs play for a conference championship.

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