UVA Basketball Thread 11/23

Hoos tied for 41st with Clemson in latest AP poll.
27th in Coaches Poll

Felt like we did that with Dre though. Am I wrong?

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Should immediately use Dunn to set a ball screen for Rohde or Isaac and get easy looks on the drop coverage

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Yeah I really don’t love it. But I also think Tony Bennett is great because he does things his way, so I’ll take the few negatives(in my book) to get all of the positive.

Positives: Basically everything
Negatives: I don’t love our base set on offense and don’t like our uniforms.

So do the positives outweigh the negatives? Yes. Will I stop complaining about the negatives though? Probably not:)

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Personally I am a Blocker-Lover and I don’t get why people place so much blame at its feet. It has historically generated tons of great shots and our offense really only truly sucked when we didn’t have the shooters to make the shots. But whatever I don’t care what scheme we use.

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yeah I’m sort of in that camp too @WFS_HOO . It’s not that I don’t think it matters, it’s that college coaching staffs are all really good at figuring it all out so the difference is negligible. But that’s more by the end of the season, and this is November. I also think it’s generally a very boring topic to 90% of fans so I rarely touch on it.

There will be schematic adjustments as the season goes on because there always are, that’s what coaches do. That was my main point. The time to get concerned is when they go away from blocker-mover and then come back because they can’t find answers…like what happened a couple years ago.

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Because even when it is working the most common shot it creates is 2 point jumpers. Doesn’t utilize the bigs. It also doesn’t generate many free throw attempts. And when it’s not working it gets straight up ugly. It ain’t really complicated lol it works when you have a Ty Jerome or Malcolm Brogdon type but otherwise it’s suboptimal

Not to say I think B/M is the worst option in general (might be for this team if IMac and Rohde can’t start getting off more shots). Just had hoped we would see more of Bo Ryan’s or Jay Wright’s offensive influence this far into Tony’s tenure

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Mover blocker fits players like Joe Harris and Kyle guy and Jerome and Perrantes, and even Brogdon and Hall some.

I just hate it when like with 3 minutes left out of nowhere Reece will effortlessly drive to the Rim like it’s nothing when the urgency kicks in and Im sitting there like “WHY HAVENT YOU BEEN DOING THAT THE WHOLE GAME”. Also the passiveness it teaches can be detrimental to a roster that is already lacking “dawg” mentality.

That and it’s pretty funny to watch teams guard mover blocker this year. Like you can clearly tell in that set the other team doesn’t give a flyin F about anyone but following mcKneely and pressuring him off the screen.

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Good point. Mentally exhausting too. Poor Rohde looked like a straggler at the end of a Iron Man vs. Wisky. He was cooked.

For all my fellow early 90s SNL heads:

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Tommy: It’s the only thing that survives the crash – why don’t they build the whole plane out of the Black Box!

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It does seem like there should be designed plays for Reece that are akin to the isolation play that the 2019 team used to call for Dre:

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Jay Wright’s offense is kinda diametrically opposite B/M; Nova typically sacrifices player movement to preserve spacing, and sometimes they sacrifice ball movement too (like the zero pass possessions people were talking about recently where they had Justin Moore dribble into a post-up with a cleared out side of the floor). If you have good ways to create an initial advantage at the point of attack, that spacing leads to bad options for the defense rotating, but if you can’t win the point of attack, it can get ugly and stagnant (true for like 99% of offenses, not specific to Nova’s).

Bo Ryan’s classic Swing offense is another patterned offense that plays through the post. I’ve never been a huge fan of it because it leads to a lot of guard post-ups, which can be nice in certain doses when they have mismatches, but maybe not a shot type you want in high doses.

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I understand it would be a big shift but those two had better offenses than Tony. I think Tony is tied to B/M because it’s weirdly part of his identity rather than because he objectively analyzes things and thinks it’s the best base offense. Even Dick Bennett said he created B/M because it was tough to recruit skilled bigs to small schools not because he thinks it’s the best offense

It’s not like the rest of the coaching community endorses it by running it themselves like they do with the packline. I mean did Sanchez even run B/M at Charlotte? McKay doesn’t run it at as his primary offense at Liberty

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Via Trilly Donovan

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Jonathan Wasserman latest mock. Just sharing

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14. New Orleans Pelicans: Ryan Dunn

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Ryan Dunn, VirginiaRyan M. Kelly/Getty Images

  1. School/Team: Virginia
  2. Position: SF/PF
  3. Age: 20, Sophomore
  4. Size: 6’8", 216 lbs
  5. Pro Comparison: Herb Jones

At some point in this year’s first round, a team is going to look past Ryan Dunn’s offensive limitations to add his wild defensive playmaking and court coverage.

Certain front offices will feel they can afford to pass on better scorers and playmakers if a Herb Jones 2.0 is available.

Not many 6’8" forwards anticipate and move with as much speed and explosion as Dunn, who’s made some incredible recovery plays, jumps passing lanes and rotates down for weakside contests at the rim.

An off-ball disruptor with the size and foot speed to guard bigs or wings, he can also provide complementary scoring with elite athleticism for play-finishing.

Any signs of shooting improvement this year should launch him into one of the draft’s top tiers.

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Serious question: better predictive value this stage of the season, average mock draft blogger/tweeter or average AP poll voter? I don’t follow the nba at all so I really have no context.

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Forgot Reece

52. Orlando Magic: Reece Beekman

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Reece Beekman, VirginiaDavid Jensen/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images

  1. School/Team: Virginia
  2. Position: PG
  3. Age: 22, Senior
  4. Size: 6’3", 194 lbs

Moving up draft boards will require Reece Beekman to show some shooting improvement. He’s still an interesting second-round option for his two-way playmaking. Some teams could find use for his passing IQ to run offense and pesky defense around the perimeter.

He’ll really help himself by looking more confident with his pull-up and three-ball. Right now, it’s difficult to picture him self-creating or scoring at the next level, which is a potential issue in today’s NBA for a lead guard.

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I don’t know much about the guys who do the mocks honestly. I think this guy puts them out fairly regularly. Was just sharing.

Not sure Ryan’s best fit would be New Orleans. Already have a good wing defender who isn’t a scorer, with Herb Jones. Their biggest need is a reserve big man.