šŸ€ Virginia vs NC Central, Friday, 7 November 2025, 1900, ACCNX

Wacky stat: we have been out scored in the second and fourth quarters of our two games

81-77

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Juice to start, empty by the finish

Q1/Q3: 87-38

You really see it on defense. Putting those together in a more consistent way:

87-38 to start the half
77-81 to finish the half

81 is more than double 38! (#math)

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Yeah, they haven’t played their best basketball for more than a few minutes here or there (but it’s high quality when they get it going on both ends).

I think that’s to be expected, though. Generally speaking, I thought they just kind of got too casual in the second part of each half.

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Malik’s creation for others was a pleasant development. Ok with him calling his own number a little more going towards the hoop. He’s got great body control to finish at the rim through contact.

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Yeah, Grünloh is a nice addition. I really love DeRidder & Mallory. I expect to see Chance on the floor more as the season goes along.

The perimeter trio of Malik, Jacari, and Sam… I don’t know… kinda expected a bit more. And I’m sure I’ll see more as they settle in. This is kinda what November basketball is all about. It’s rarely pretty.

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It’s early but after two games I think I’m a little lower on the team than I was to start. Our defense is not good. I don’t think we’re in the tier with NCST, Carolina, Duke, or really close at this point. Hopefully Odom coaches em up a bit

So is this board out on Purdue too? Are they below the NC States of the world?

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Don’t look it up, just guess: what range is our defensive 2P% in currently?

  • Under 30%
  • 30-35%
  • 36-40%
  • Over 40%
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I’d just caution and remind that we’ve yet to see a game across 8 halves of basketball that the team is pulling out all of the stops to win yet. We’ve yet to see what a truly competitive 40 minutes looks like from how Odom uses the team or how the players play.

When you’re up 20+ you do play differently in terms of either trying to get other guys shots or trying to force your own. You’re experimenting with things, you aren’t running your best stuff; the intensity isn’t there.

I’d wager the first half of these two halves tonight is much closer to what they’ll play like in meaningful games than the latter part.

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They might be. Thought #1 was overstated. Like Dickinson era Kansas.

Edit - just saw TKR was out. Looks like they started a 6-6 frosh at center (oops, PF). But lack of depth in the front court has been a known issue

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I agree, but still… maybe I’ve been Kenpom pilled, but I think the ability to blow teams out is pretty highly correlated with being very good. And the opposite with the opposite.

Struggling to keep a ten point lead on Nova begets not being able to keep a 30 pt margin v NCC. Is it enough for a pattern? It’s enough to talk about IMO

It’s early and small sample size tho. And we are learning to play together so it’s even earlier…

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Should we panic about Texas Tech then? They only beat Sam Houston by 21. Like this game was never in doubt lol

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I mean, BYU also struggled to keep a 10-point lead on Villanova in a regular season game.

I do think it’s encouraging that they opened the game on a 36-10 run and both sides of the ball looked pretty dominant (10 points allowed through the first 13 mins) and then started the second half on a 23-9 run.

Is it worth talking about them losing their intensity/concentration late in a scrimmage and in the second half of two blowout halves? Sure. We talk about everything - I don’t think it actually means a ton about how they’ll be playing when the games are more competitive though.

If anything, I’m encouraged that Thomas has shot so poorly from three and we’ve shot so poorly from the FT line and we’ve still not looked to break a sweat.

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You should panic about what you want to panic about

And who’s we? Who are you speaking for? :joy:

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I’m just saying keep your principles consistent. The 2019 national title team only beat George Washington and MTSU by a hair over 20. They were clearly cooked.

I just don’t think your take really holds water

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I do get some of the questions about how we played in the second half, we will have forgotten about it two weeks from now but we did kinda play like shit. Most of it is correctable and can be chalked up to the team still not being fully in sync.

With that being said though the handwringing and comparison game being had towards margin of victory just seems silly to me, sweating about margins over 20-25 points seems pretty pointless given how much variance is involved. It’s also just a miserable way to consume college basketball.

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What’s my take? That I agree with Cuts that we have played well in short stretches and it’s too early to draw many conclusions

That the best teams tend to blow teams out (like our 2019 team did)

Which of these do you disagree with?

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Remember that time we lost to Navy? Or that time we lost to San Francisco? Boy am I glad we didn’t do that tonight.

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