šŸ€ Why is CTB considered a HOF coach?

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I was there! We almost won 2! It was fun.

Sorry haters. Some of us enjoyed watching hoops in the Leitao era as well.

On the Mt Rushmore of ā€œHaney went to that tourney and had fun and also got schooled in pick up hoops by the Diener family at the Columbus Yā€ thereā€™s only one coach - Dave Leitao.

On the Mt Rushmore of ā€œHaney went to open practice only because heā€™s not made of money after all and saw J-Willy and Darion beefin and then the next night we tried to cover Branden Dawson with Evan frickin Nolte, not that Iā€™m bitterā€ is Tony Bennett.

I do regret not trying harder to get to MSP howeverā€¦

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Where is the daisycutter when you need it.

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Ah yes of course, funny I forgot since I was there lol. Also was at the next round vs. Tennessee which imo we win if JR doesnā€™t hurt his ankle in the first half

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So thatā€™s why no Atkins. I was screaming at my tv to get bolts off the court. Tony always had some head scratching roster decisions (to me).

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To be fair, Iā€™m being a little loose around the details. Darion managed to find himself in the doghouse a fair amount before he was a senior.

There was clearly beef with the staff. There may have even been something he said to Norm Wood from the Daily Progress.

Yup, Iā€™m a grudge haverā€¦ so when Iā€™m old and forgetful, my memory of Tony Bennett will be ā€œNever streamed the Blue-White game, didnā€™t play Darion after AG got hurt ā€¦ and ā€¦ I think he won a natty, but Iā€™m getting old and forgetful so donā€™t quote me.ā€

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I feel like the HOF is a lock due to the numbers cited PLUS the fact that he ran a very clean program. His reputation amongst the CBB community will get him over the line. I actually think the bigger debate is whether he or Holland is UVaā€™s greatest coach. Hard to do on the numbers alone because the two eras were very different. I would be interested to hear opinions on that 1a/1b question.

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I wasnā€™t around for the Holland era, but I think itā€™s Tony. Natty + better regular season record + Holland a bit hamstrung by rep of being ā€œRalphā€™s coachā€

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No right answer in my opinion.

CTB having the natty is the crown jewel superlative, and he did have great ACC success.
I get your point on Holland underperforming with Ralph, but he did have 2 FFs, another 2E8, and another S16. The regular season in the ACC was a gauntlet in the 80s with UNC, Duke, Md, GT, and NCSt all having iconic coaches (though Duke real big moments came in the 90s). Itā€™s a good debate question.

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Not even underperforming under Ralph - just more that most of his heights came while coaching Ralph. Though the last final 4 was after he left.

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Holland was still there in ā€˜84. That was our surprise run.

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Worst thread ever

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@DFresh11 you might be biased on this one, but Iā€™m sure you have some good thoughts. Keeping the discussion entirely positive What strengths did each coach bring to the table?

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My bad but what coaches am I comparing here?

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Tony to Holland

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I would be more ā€œbiasedā€ to Tony actually. Coach Holland gave me my scholarship and used me sparingly as a back up PG for 1 year

BUT Coach Holland had teams that he let go to score lots of points and competed in the old school ACC

I would say Terry Holland

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As Haney said Holland and Tony was the original question, but I am curious how Coach Jones compared as well. All greats in my book.

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Love the insight man! I appreciate you.

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JJ caught something special and somehow got amazing recruits. He got close I think but not quite Coach Holland or TB level

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That Elite 8 run is too easily forgotten

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I had gotten into Virginia basketball in the couple years leading up to that run, but that was the season that cemented my fandom.