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Pity he only lived to be 15.
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Nice! I didnāt realize Grinnell had broken the record. The list of records I have must be older than Iād realized.
how does the Grinnell version of @Hooandtrue look at HS recruiting & transfers? Is the only analytic metric 3PT%? What is a bouncy 4? 36% 3PT%? Classic 5 is only 33% 3PT%? The PG better be north of 45%.
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ChatGPT response about UVA adopting the Grinnell systemā¦
The Grinnell System, known for its high-tempo, three-point-heavy, full-court pressing style, would be a wild contrast to Tony Bennettās defensive-minded system at UVA. Hereās why it probably wouldnāt work at Virginia, but also how it could in some form:
Why It Wouldnāt Work at UVA
- Tony Bennettās Pack Line Defense ā UVA thrives on a methodical, low-possession, elite defensive system. The Grinnell System is all about maximizing possessions and gambling on defense. Itās the opposite philosophy.
- Recruiting Fit ā UVA recruits disciplined, defensive-minded players who play within a structured system. The Grinnell approach relies on deep rotations and a unique skill set (primarily shooters and high-energy press defenders).
- ACC Competition ā Grinnell thrives at the D-III level, where opponents struggle to adapt. In the ACC, teams have superior athletes who would shred an all-out press and defend transition threes effectively.
Could UVA Use Any Grinnell Elements?
- More Transition Offense ā UVA is often criticized for a slow pace. Incorporating some of Grinnellās fast-break principles (early threes, quick ball movement) could help in spurts.
- Deeper Bench Usage ā Grinnell thrives on mass substitutions. While UVA wonāt go full hockey-line subs, a slightly deeper bench could keep starters fresher.
- Situational Full-Court Press ā While Bennett prioritizes half-court defense, a well-timed press could disrupt teams late in games.
Final Verdict
UVA is too invested in its Pack Line, slow tempo, and efficient offense for Grinnellās chaotic style to work full-time. However, small elementsāespecially increased tempo and selective pressingācould be useful in the right situations.
Would you like to explore specific ways UVA could tweak its approach without abandoning its identity?
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Iām really mad about points 79 & 80, and 123 & 124ā¦ they ruined a perfect game of only 3-pointers.
If those were FTs I think they should have missed on purpose.
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So couldnāt we just use chatGPT to be our coach going forward?
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I vote yesā¦ it totally nailed CRS nicknames! 
We need to move on from Ron the Ringleaderā¦ but not Sanchez Slam.
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Blocker-Mover ish action at the start of that, side note. ND under Brey used to sometimes get into actions that way.
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Love it and thatās actually old school! On my AAU team we ran this action with our center Billy Curley, who went on have a great career at BC. Remember this SI Cover?!
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Iām no scout, but I think that pass off the backboard looked intentional? Does that count as a missed shot and a rebound? If the post guy went back up with it and made it, is that an assist? Has anyone actually run that play consistently before?
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Thatās a pass for sure but not sure how they score it in the books. @DavetheWave probably knows. And we ran it all the time in AAU (see my post above). The key to making it work is not āshootingā the ball - you need more pace on it to work effectively. You have to throw an overhead pass. Usually resulted in a dunk or an and-1 bucket. Billy never passed it after he caught it in that situation.
Also - here is one with Bird/DJ back in the dayā¦
Edit: For the OGās in the group - did they ever do this with Ralph?
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Just Celtics cheating again in the 80s
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Man, I love the creativity and strategy behind the Grinnell system - but that one play where they just completely ignore the wide-open layup after the steal on the press to look for someone to kick it out to for a three makes me recoil.
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Yep thatās old - new - we did it in high school all the timeā¦ we even did it on throw ins.
Thatās hilarious. You posted it before I could. Celtics ran that all the time and thatās where our high school team got it from.
And yes, of course it counts as an assist. It does not count as a shot.
You rang? I donāt remember anybody passing to Ralph off the backboard. They just lobbed the ball up so high nobody else could possibly reach it.
Non sequitur time: Isnāt your video from the Bird-stole-the-ball game?
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Ralph always had someone fronting him and someone backing him. 
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Yea when Bird cheated again
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