Whoa whoa whoa, not you, The Founder and President of the Ryan Dunn Hype Train
(You were right btw, RMFD)
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Yea man. @AnonymooseHoo has some disconnect here / is overthinking for some reason.
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Been locked in a windowless FiDi office all week, hard not to overthink things
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Come to Jersey City with Fresh my man. We know people ha
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It aināt me, beeras in the East village currently
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Hahhah enjoy my man. Also East Village was very 1997 for some of us
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Concerning Gertrude and i only read the posts that are 7 hours old is that if he is completely healthy im like @HoozGotNext You canāt keep him off the court
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After seeing highlight reels of Gertrude, if he is healthy there is no way you are keeping that dude off the court. He probably wonāt start but a healthy Gertrude will get run. Athletically he plays in ratified air. Ally-oops from Reece to Gertrude and Dunn would demoralize the opposition.
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But how many colonies have ratified?
And will lock down 3 positions on offense in TBs system
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Funny seeing so many posts about alley oops leaving off Bond
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Iām in the āstrategery campā of playing time allocated to reflect the new transfer reality. Can Tony still win with expanding minutes for guys? I believe so, I donāt know that itās that much the knifeās edge in terms of wins/losses. Buchanan and Gertrude are the two that are worth extending more time to early on.
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We have to keep those 2 happy. Too important for the future. If Gertrude has his shooting down it will be a short future here
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Just a general note to say that keeping someone happy is not a matter of simply playing them minutes.
We threw a ton of minutes at Casey Morsell way too early, and it messed with him. Didnāt have a chance to gradually build confidence. So it can cut both ways. We should not assume playing guys who arenāt ready will somehow appease them and make them less likely to transfer. They may underperform and blame the underperformance on something related to the program.
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This may be true - I donāt know - but I also think it was a uniquely bad offensive fit. He likes to shoot off the dribble and score in ways we donāt really. He likes an unstructured offense, which is very far from what we do. Heās pretty much said as much in interviews. Itās honestly a little confusing because that was his game in high school too - I watched a bunch of his games - but I guess the coaches thought we could make it work.
All thatās to say, I donāt know that bringing him along slower was going to make a huge difference, although you never know. Impossible to play it out and I get the argument. But I donāt think he was ever an ideal fit, as much as I like him. And to his credit, he identified and moved to an offense that is a much better fit (who the hell knows what NCST is actually running, but it certainly isnāt structured and allows for a lot of freelancing).
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Believe it was @NorVaHoo who laid out a pretty good three part test for whether a kid will stick around: satisfaction/happiness with (1) their role on the team, (2) academic life at UVa, and (3) non-academic student life. I think PT is highly but not perfectly correlated with #1 - satisfaction with role on the hoops team (Point being - PT is a good predictor, but obviously not perfect)
Thatās my macro take. On the micro level - Casey specifically, his PT level was high enough, but the trend was bad. Thatās off the dome - but I suspect the stats back it up.
@MaineWahoo my cynical take is that Casey is a good example of why you donāt always give so much weight to what kids say about their own game. Casey Morsell has never been that insightful on understanding Casey Morsellās game. A lot of us are bad at understanding ourselves. See also, McKoy, Justin and @Haney, who thinks heās making a profound point here or somethingā¦
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I think Casey couldāve been just as good of a fit offensively for us. Especially as weāve experimented away from sides. I donāt think he shot dramatically better at State simply because they just let dudes chuck shots up in a 4 out scheme. It wasnāt an inherently impossible fit here and my argument is that it was made much tougher because of the expectations on him early on. The adjustment couldnāt be gradual, it got in his head, he forced stuff, got benched for forcing stuff, and it never really left his head.
Apart from that, I donāt think itās controversial to say that giving guys lots of minutes solves the transfer issue on its own and that in some cases it could backfire.
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To @haneyās point about Casey not being the most aware of his game, he doesnāt do much shooting off the dribble at NC State; 63% of his shots this past season came from 3, and probably like 90% of those were spot-ups, as 96% of his makes from 3 were assisted. I guess he does get to do more standstill shooting there versus shooting off screens, and he has 0 playmaking (or dribbling really) responsibility there. To me, thatās less about being unstructured vs. structured and more about what exactly the offense is asking you to do, and TB asks his guards to do a little of everything vs. specializing.
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Iām not sure playing guys to avoid attrition makes a ton of sense with this specific roster. 8!! players (okay 7 if we take Robinson out of the minutes discussion) have at least 3 years of remaining eligibility. How do you play for the future when 2/3 of the roster is the future? We conceivably could reduce Groves and Minorās minutes as the season progresses but beyond that you are taking minutes from one young player to give them to another
Just have to hope the guys with the highest ceiling are also the best guys by mid-February 2024. And the ones who transfer out because they miss the rotation are genuinely the inferior players
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