I have always thought around 2030 is when all heck may break loose. I think ACC is probably in an uneasy truce/alliance with the big brands in the league till then.
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If this means fewer non-con cupcakes, Iâm all in favor of it.
Unless of course we are the cupcake by then.
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My biggest problem with marquee matchups is in some ways you do need to protect the top of the conference to preserve as many CFP bids as possible⊠yeah we joke about Bama losing to Vanderbilt this season but in reality if sec teams didnât play the full gauntlet theyâd have more teams getting in.
Clemson and SMU not meeting in regular season allowed both the ability to get in.
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Can we talk about the hilarious ACC plan to manipulate the conference championship game to try to get more teams in the CFB playoff? Incredible shenanigans. I genuinely love it.
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Will matter less if the rumored proposal from the BIG & SEC takes effect starting in 2026. If I remember, it called for a 14 team playoff with 4 guaranteed spots for each of the BIG & SEC, 2 each for ACC & BIG 12, 1 Power 5, and 1 true at large in the CFP.
Canât imagine Notre Dame would be thrilled with that idea though.
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SMH. Canât believe we signed a grant of rights for over 18,000 years. In the out years we will stand no chance against the combined might of the SEC and BIG intergalactic forces.
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Reading the article without knowing the details, it looks like Clemson and FSU were able to squeeze enough higher revenue from the ACC to make leaving the conference untenable, especially given the Grant of Rights penalty. The question remains whether a majority of other schools are willing to take an even smaller slice of a inferior pie to keep those schools happy.
No doubt the Greensboro suits will heavily pressure the have-nots to consent. My guess is U.Va. will play along. But as others have noted, 2031 (when the SECâs and B1Gâs media contracts expire) is going to be a key date. One way or another, the ACC wonât look the same after that.
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Back in September, the ACC was discussing shortening the GoR to end in 2030. I canât find any reporting on how those talks went. I assume the GoR is still in place through 2036 right now.
I canât envision any scenario where ND is behind at least 5 SEC schools or 5 Big Ten schools or 3 ACC schools or 3 Big XII schools or 2 G5 schools AND also in the top 14 such that theyâd be left out.
I mean the 5th place team last year in the SEC was Ole Miss (ranked 14th in the final standings) and there are at least 5 âeliteâ BIG programs in OSU, Michigan, Oregon, PSU, and USC. It wouldnât be shocking at all in the future â especially if the 4 auto bids are based off of conference standings driven by misaligned schedules and/or conference title bid stealers (cough, Clemson ranked 17th or ASU ranked 15th) - to have either a 5th place SEC or 5th place BIG team ranked above a top 15 or even top 10 ND.
I didnât sketch out scenarios, so that was just the thinking in my head. OK letâs work it out to see.
- Big Ten 1
- SEC 1
- Big Ten 2
- SEC 2
- Big Ten 3
- SEC 3
- Big Ten 4
- SEC 4
- ACC 1
- Big 12 1
- ACC 2
- Big 12 2
- SEC 5
- ND
- G5
OK thatâs one scenario ND at 14 gets dropped.
- SEC 5
- ND
- Big Ten 5
- Big 12 2
- G5
Thatâs another scenario. Let me see how extreme I have to go to find the highest ranking ND could have and still get dropped.
- ACC 1
- ACC 2
- ACC 3
- ND
- SEC 1
- Big Ten 1
- Big Ten 2
- SEC 2
- Big Ten 3
- Big 12 1
- Big Ten 4
- SEC 3
- Big 12 2
- SEC 4
- G5
I mean thatâs extreme and probably close to impossible, but itâs a 4th ranked ND getting dropped.
Not sure if totally accurate but it does point out something that has bothered me for a whileâ how is the big 12 a better league without its own network? The advantages may be short lived but carriage fees are real and still a lot of money!
Still a huge gap (and growing) between us and the B1G/SEC, but weâre not the third world yet.
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It makes me feel a little better but only a little. It also reminds me that everybody makes choices in these analyses so you gotta look with a critical eye. Seems like this was made to take a shot at FSU which I love.
Itâs the details that hang me up. Nothing is normalized by member school counts. Also this:
But as long as theyâre crapping on FSU, Iâm in.
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I assume that means negotiated too far in the past ? But just guessing
Yeah, youâre prob right, but 2024 data not being included for being âtoo far in the pastâ seems silly.
Much better to say itâs not relevant because of new developments in the wake of the west coast additions and renegotiations.
Assuming they didnât untangle the per school rates in part because of the disproportionate shares that exist. Prob other factors too.
I forget sometimes that that sharpshooting factoids is just tilting at windmills.
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Iâve had many discussions and disagreements on here and elsewhere with people who hold the position that the Big 12 is a far superior conference than the ACC now and in the future. My position that the ACC per school share is much higher than the Big 12âs doesnât seem to resonate nor does my argument that the reason the Big 12 is considered stable rather than a conference that might be raided like the ACC is because no one else wants the schools in the Big 12. The Big 12 is a conference of rejects and outcasts. The reason the ACC is targeted is because thereâs schools that have value to other leagues. Those schools make the ACC a better conference than the Big 12. But none of that convinces anyone to change their opinion, so whatever.
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Good⊠or nah? Service Academies omitted.
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Do we go to the A10 in this scenario or am I blind?
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Itâs cut-off but weâd stay in the ACC⊠the old ACC with Maryland back and up to Miami expansion.
Also me when I saw the notification pop up on my phone. Why are we talking about an A10 on the UVa site? 
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ACC (have to click the full image)
Is this good? I dunno, Iâm not sure what factor this setup is trying to maximize. Geographic coherence, revenue, preservation of historical rivalries, similarity in institution type could all be factors. I guess maybe itâs ânostalgia plus screwing over NW and Vandyâ
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