šŸ€ 2024 Men's Basketball Offseason

Dante posted ā€œI’m backā€ or something like that not long ago…I think he meant from his ankle surgery. It was accompanied by old Gtown highlights.

Someone told me earlier this summer that his situation is complicated, and there were different scenarios in play without explaining further. My guess is no matter what you won’t see him in a UVA uniform on gamedays, but it’s possible he would rejoin the team as a practice player so he could keep up his training. Probably depends on what semester he’s on track to graduate. He hasn’t been around this summer, no idea if he was taking classes.

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Definitely. There’s less rim protection today and, in general, more advantages for the offense. He would light it up.*

*if still a Hoo, his 30ppg would be closer to 20ppg

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Stith wouldn’t be in college more than a year or 2.

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I wonder if this is true in college? There was an’x’ thread within the last week or so showing there’s significantly better rim protection now in the NBA than the 90’s mainly due to the longer players and thus better rim protection at the 2-4

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Yeah, no you’re right. The trend is true across basketball. There’s better rim protection now than there was then despite defenses being more spread now.

This is what I was referring to when talking about how longer players developing more offensive skill and being playable outside of traditional ā€œbigā€ positions is the biggest reason this has changed.

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This feels kinda true to me, but are players actually longer now than in the past? And if so…why?

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growth hormones in the food.

A secret government plot.

microwaves.

kool-aide

need I go on?

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Hahaha. Alternatively, one thing I thought of is maybe a shift in who gets developed for what position? Like would today’s wings have been developed more as post players in the past? So then you get more tall and long people into the player population because there’s more spots for them?

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Which one is your secret, or is it all of the above and then some?

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Since 2010, block % has stayed roughly the same but % of attempts that are 3 pointers have gone up by ~5%, so that seems to be some evidence that a greater % of 2 pointers (likely at the rim?) are being blocked.

But that’s mostly because Tony didn’t play Elijah who would’ve blocked a ton of three pointers, and probably shifted the % on his own.

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How much of this can be attributed to the ā€œfreedom of movementā€ development in officiating, making it a wee bit easier to attack the rim, and, thus, creating more opportunities to protect the rim?

I think there’s push and pull factors on all this stuff, as I look at various years data. 3 point line keeps moving out (I forget which years) which puts little dips in the overall rise of 3 pointers. And yeah, various freedom of movement rule changes probably cause at least minor inflections in the data. Or at least temporarily.

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Before I begin, I’m an English major with an Economist subscription, so you know this is 100% accurate and not just a dumb theory.
I think it is capitalism plus nutrition. We are getting bigger as humans with better access to nutrition, athletes identified young even moreso. Then you can make a boat-load of money if you make it as an nba player and now even in the short term in college. People reallocate their ā€œtimeā€ resource to align with this opportunity, especially in the face of decreased high earner employment opportunities without significant long term investment in grad school, etc. You show aptitude young, why not go for it (just need some luck like described in Outliers, the Gladwell book)?
Maybe?

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That has to play a role. Back in the day anyone appearing to be 6’5 or above trained exclusively as a post player and now everyone trains as a wing or a point.

@grillswith my secret is simple.

Flex Muscle GIF by mynaturalforce

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I’m sure there’s some of that. Although if you go back and watch that game from '91 we were discussing the other day (UVa vs. State) there were also a lot of fouls called that I don’t think would be called today (at least in college).

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You’re spot on and this is the main answer, IMO. It’s the Dirk Nowitzki effect. It’s looking at how Wenbanyama plays now vs. how Ralph played then. LeBron running point in the Olympics. Kevin Durant.

Magic Johnson was a complete unicorn when he played re: PG with size. We have a 6’7" PG on our roster this coming season and, I’m looking forward to seeing how he does, but it’s not overly unique and he’s not really expected to be one of CBBs more impactful players.

Basically - it’s the philosophy around the sport. In that era, smaller players developed more guard skills and longer players were taught to develop post skills. Now that it’s understood that it’s helpful for as many people on your team to be good at handling, shooting, and passing, the collective size/length on the floor is increasing because there’s more guard skill with those types of players, allowing them more venues to get on the floor.

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By the way we completely melted down the second half

Play Fresh more dammit

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Ahhh, if only you had redshirted…

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CTB would have played you and Crotty both 30 minutes together.

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Block% actually calculates the number of blocks/2PT attempts since 3s are so rarely blocked.

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