🏀 2025-26 In-Season ACC Thread

[crazysportsdude]

Dropped nearly 2 full points on KenPom which is a decent drop, but was actually only 4 spots based on how the teams behind them were rated

[jphat007]

Yeah 2 points is pretty crazy. That’s gonna be worse in NET too because GT was 163 or something like that

[wahoobelinda]

We want Miami to win because we don’t play Clemson and have Miami at home. We can catch them. We have had a difficult schedule to open ACC play, while both of them have been beating the bottom feeders.

[Hooandtrue]

https://x.com/MattNorlander/status/2012606726239867273

[wahoo19]

[AdventiveQuasar]

[Hooandtrue]

BC up on Syracuse.

I’d offer Sadiq White a redshirt +2 year deal

[StLouHoo]

What was Wade’s quote again about how he wouldn’t fit at Virginia?

[wahoo19]

@StLouHoo

What was Wade’s quote again about how he wouldn’t fit at Virginia?

I forget if he spoke on us exactly but he did say: “At probably 90 percent of the schools in this league, I’m not a very good fit, but I do think NC State’s one of the schools where it is a fit.”

[Hooandtrue]

https://x.com/Justin_Ferber/status/2007513994119323927

[crazysportsdude]

KenPom right now has four teams projected to finish 13-5 or better in the league (Duke, UVA, Clemson, Miami). No other team better than 10-8.

Miami certainly the most suspect of those four but they get a super favorable draw with BC and FSU twice, no Duke, and no west coast trip

[GulfCoastHoo]

We’re going to score 100 on UNC. This is not a good defensive team.

[crazysportsdude]

Duke 14th in Torvik but 4th in KenPom. Wonder what causes a gap that big. I tend to think Torvik is closer but doubt KP at your own risk

[dave92]

That’s really strange. Their models are usually pretty close to each other, as you’d expect. And I’d guess they particularly shouldn’t have such a disconnect at the top end, where the curve is steep (unlike the middle, where it’s all a muddle).

[AdventiveQuasar]

Could be around different weighting of games. Torvik might weigh recent games more heavily (not necessarily right or wrong, just a model design decision).

[crazysportsdude]

That would also explain why Torvik is higher on us

[jazznutUVA]

Virginia emerges as Duke's biggest ACC threat after road win over SMU

[dbfromnva]

That is a really good article!!!

[wahoo19]

@AdventiveQuasar

Could be around different weighting of games. Torvik might weigh recent games more heavily (not necessarily right or wrong, just a model design decision).

If I remember correctly, Torvik also adjusts to put less weight on garbage time (I believe defined as when one team has a 99.9%+ chance of winning) compared to KenPom