🏀 2025-26 In-Season Outside ACC/UVa Thread

Ohio State (future opponent) scored 100+ points!! Also gave up 100+ points. To IU-Indy, the artist formerly known as IUPUI (ooey-pooey… if you thought Rutgers had image issues…)

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5 posts were merged into an existing topic: :basketball: Former UVa guys chatter (Remembering some UVa guys)

https://twitter.com/tonypatelis/status/1985715464077496393?s=46&t=

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The more I learn about Hawaii Pacific, the more fascinated I become.

https://twitter.com/mikeyover1/status/1985570557211910198?s=46&t=vkjgQUekzGC7z44tIfnIRQ

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Losses by P5 + Mountain West through two days…

  • ACC one loss: BC (FAU)
  • Big East one loss (2 teams yet to play): Villanova (#9 BYU)
  • Big 10 no losses. (2 teams yet to play)
  • Big 12 one loss: TCU (New Orleans)
  • Mountain West three losses: Boise State (Hawaii Pacific), Air Force (Belmont), UNLV (UT Martin).
  • SEC two losses (2 teams yet to play): #3 Florida (#13 Arizona), Texas (#6 Duke)
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Mountain west is gonna go out with a whimper

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What’s interesting is Torvik doesn’t factor for the loss to a D2 team (or a win for that matter). It looks like NET won’t factor this in either.

Feel like your resume should be punished at least equally for loss to a D-II as it would for a loss to a team like UT-Martin.

  • UNLV fell 9 spots after losing to #335 UT Martin
  • Boise State fell 1 spot after losing to D2 Hawaii Pacific.

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NCAA guy said it still goes on the team sheet, so I think the committee will factor it in. IIRC, the reason it’s not in NET is to deter teams scheduling non-D1 teams to pump up their metrics (this was one of the many issues with RPI back in the day).

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This was BC correct?

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Correct, updated. GT had their near disaster to UMES but escaped!

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Worlock? Yeah, I think that his response was a bit disingenuous. The game is on the team sheet, but that’s it. If it doesn’t factor into any metric, how “on the team sheet” is it?

The saving grace would be that if it was close with BSU, every media member would raise the salience of that game…

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I wonder if its like a comment along the bottom, something like “Remember, its not in the stats but they lost to a D2 team”.

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Nah - the better D2 teams are better than most of the bottom 50 “D1” teams… I went to an NAIA school that went to NCAA D2 eventually… even as NAIA we beat some D1 teams in scrimmages.

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It’s probably too hard to track (metrically) all those D2 teams, as well.

For quad purposes, couldn’t they just mark it as a Q4 loss? Maybe they do, I don’t know…

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I mean that’s fine but would still be in the very bad loss category.

It probably doesn’t matter because Boise State is garbage and the committee recognized the FAKE NEWS MWC in the last couple of tourney’s.

But will still grind my gears when in December, we’re seeing Boise State is a Q1 (Neutral games against Saint Mary’s, USC) or a Q2A on the team sheet (is that a thing), adding to the MWC circle jerk.

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Oregon barely escaped Hawaii - Chaminade about to cause problems in Maui

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D2 has NIL now too … causing some schools to leave D2

Eh. Gotta draw the line somewhere, and no matter where you draw it someone will be unhappy about being just on the wrong side. And they’ll have lots of good reasons why it should be drawn somewhere else.

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Haven’t paid attention recently but Hawaii Pacific was a long time powerhouse… there are a lot of schools who have no business being “D1”… probably at least 100 of them.

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When I hurt my brain and think about the NCAA tourney and efficiency metrics and scheduling too much, I usually wind up thinking that it would all work better if there were only like 150 or so teams.

But also that seems unnecessarily mean to all those teams, so I don’t really know the solution.

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