šŸ€ ACC Basketball Offseason 2024

Lubin is at his third school and Brown is, well, going to have an adequate career in college.

In hindsight Iā€™m pretty ok with us taking Leon. The staff took a gamble on him developing an outside shoot and the upside justifies it. It didnā€™t work out obviously but heā€™s been a great teammate and advocate of the program. All the best to him

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Lubin is at his third school cause of coaching changes. Both Notre Dame and Vanderbilt fans wanted him to stay badly.

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Hubert better watch out then.

Point isā€¦ we have 2 proven shooters in the 2022 class and one who is (now disproven) adequate based on high school tape. Taking on someone like Leon who we know is a long term project is more than justified. You just donā€™t pass on someone with upside like that, even if that sounds absurd given how things played out

I think my issue with Leon centers around two points:

  1. Iā€™m not sure how high his upside is given that he stopped growing. Like I know you can say well heā€™d be awesome if he could shoot the ball at a high clip. But you can say that about a lot of players. The height part isnā€™t really on the staff but the second part is

  2. If we did think that he had this great long term potential, then what was the plan to help him get there? It feels like he immediately became a tweener for us destined to fail

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Did a little more digging on FSUā€™s transfer target Justin Thomas, who may or may not be committed.

In a sign of how desperate Hamilton is, FSU would be this kidā€™s 5th program in 5 years. Went DII as a freshman in NC, JUCO in TX as a sophomore, played at Milwaukee (Horizon League) as a junior where he averaged just 7 ppg and started less than half their games, went to UTSA as a 4th year where he didnā€™t even play last season, and in the Portal already again this offseason.

Justin Thomas College Stats | College Basketball at Sports-Reference.com

Justin Thomas - Menā€™s Basketball 2023-24 - UTSA Athletics - Official Athletics Website (goutsa.com)

Iā€™m not saying he canā€™t be a nice kid or a talented player, but that Hamilton needs to recruit a guy with this many question marks raises a ton of questions. The question on whether or not heā€™s actually committed just has to be related to academics, youā€™d think, as he was on campus this past week.

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[Placeholder to discuss how badly staff kinda fouled the whole Leon Bond thing off their shins while forgetting to wear a shin guard]

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Not the guy UNC really wanted; they settled because all the guys they did want passed on them.

Yeah, this is my issue. I love Leon and honestly think he can do some damage in the right scheme. But I have no idea how we intended to use him. We redshirted him and then he came back from that yearā€¦ with the exact same overall game he displayed in high school. Maybe thatā€™s on Leon but from the outside I just have no clear idea what we told him to work on, what role he was meant to play, etc.

Anyway, hope he kills it on his new team. Iā€™ll be pulling for him. Honestly Iā€™m sad itā€™s not like the old days and he isnā€™t still a Hoo. Would have loved him to be an alum even if he never was a star for us.

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Which was a useful game that we could have found a better way to harness this year! (Thatā€™s it. Delete the placeholder)

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Oh oh its Ozenpic*

*allegedly

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Kon at the same table as Young Rat and not grimacing. Truly a lost soul

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the intelligence community calls a photo like this evidence of ā€œfull radicalization.ā€ With time, the right community, and an hefty infusion of all five pillars he can deradicalize, but he needs loved ones around him to intervene first (ideally his brothers Klaus, Kƶd, Kanvas, and KlĒngen).

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Tremendous. You forgot long lost sibling Kanivorous

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Chase Hunter back for Clemson, good for them:
https://x.com/chunt3r2/status/1795903495666590169

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The 12 yr old got it right!

https://x.com/draftexpress/status/1795915518328623398?s=46&t=wAzMZR-0PRGT1LpN6U5x0g

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https://x.com/jonrothstein/status/1795991020540223944?s=46

Make or break year for Forbes. No excuse to miss the NCAAT/not finish in the top 4-5 ACC.

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Departures PG Kevin Miller (Transferred to SMU) 35 G, 32 mpg, 15.6 ppg, 3.5 apg, 37% 3P%
SF Damari Monsanto (Transferred to TBD) 11 G, 12.5 mpg, 5.1 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 35% 3P%
F/C Andrew Carr (Transferred to Kentucky) 35 G, 32.5 mpg, 13.5 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 53% FG%
F/C Zach Keller (Transferred to Utah) 27 G, 11 mpg, 1.6 ppg, 2 rpg, 35% FG%
F/C Matthew Marsh (Transferred to Oregon State) 22 G, 10.3 mpg, 1.7 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 68% FG%
Returners G Hunter Sallis (SR) 34 G, 35.4 mpg, 18 ppg, 2.5 apg, 41% 3P%
SG Cameron Hildreth (SR) 35 G, 34.1 mpg, 13.8 ppg, 2.4 apg, 35% 3P%
SG Parker Friedrichsen (SO) 35 G, 17.9 mpg, 5.1 ppg, 0.6 apg, 37% 3P%
F Marqus Marion (SO) 21 G, 11 mpg, 1.1 ppg, 2 rpg, 40% 3P%
C Efton Reid (SR) 28 G, 27.6 mpg, 9.6 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 55% FG%
Additions PG Ty-Laur Johnson (SO Transfer, Louisville) 30 G, 23.1 mpg, 8.7 ppg, 3.6 apg, 19% 3P%
G/F Davin Cosby (SO Transfer, Alabama) 22 G, 8 mpg, 3.6 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 34% 3P%
G/F Juke Harris (4-star FR)
F Treā€™Von Spillers (SR Transfer, Appalachian State) 34 G, 29 mpg, 12.8 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 0% 3P%
PF Omaha Biliew (SO Transfer, Iowa State) 20 G, 7.4 mpg, 2.4 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 52% FG%
C Churchill Abass (SO Transfer, DePaul) 30 G, 15.9 mpg, 3.9 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 58% FG%

Ty-Laur is a step down from Boopie, both as a shooter/scorer and potentially as a locker-room presence, but at least gives Wake a blue-chip option facilitator to pair with Preseason All-ACC SG Sallis. Monsanto is maybe addition by subtraction, and Hildreth is a nice 3rd starting guard offensively. Lets them work in Friederichson, Cosby, and Juke Harris off the bench.

They do need at least one of App State transfer Spillers or Iowa State transfer Biliew (Wakeā€™s newest attempt at a former 5-star reclamation project) to emerge at the 4-spot. Efton Reid should be one of the leagueā€™s better centers this year, but beyond him post depth is a concern.

Frankly this shapes up exactly like the last couple of Wake classes, good enough for a floor as a league-top-half club with an NIT finish, but enough question marks to make the NCAAT an uncertain proposition again.

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Spillers from App State is very good. If he plays alongside Reid at the 4/5 spots, they will be a menace protecting the rim. But will give them nothing beyond the arc. Might be pretty tricky to configure a balanced shooting line up for Forbes this year, something heā€™s benefitted from the past few seasons.

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