đŸ„‡ Athletics Department Strategery

Not necessarily here, mainly thru twitter but have been seeing more Jim Ryan takes in terms of athletics. What role should a college president have or what standard should they be held to?

In my opinion sports is important for driving money but like I’d hope it’s 5th, 6th, or 7th, on a president’s list of priorities. I’ve seen some takes blaming him a bit or he is he the right president for UVA but it seems like from a student perspective, give me Jim Ryan over Teresa Sullivan 1000000x.

How important should athletics be in a president’s role?

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There is a thread on the Sabre saying the BOV is meeting perhaps today to decide on Ryan’s future at UVA. Not sure the merit to that, but that chatter is out there and it’s been clear that the recent BOV appointees are not fans of the direction of the University.

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@TheKingofRugbyRoad you ready for a School president search?

Who are the contenders? I hear Yale has an up and comer as their dean of graduate studies. “Next Big Thing” thrown around often

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Man, that would be a shame.

I crossed paths with him a few times during my time at UVA and can definitively say that Jim Ryan is a good man.

But he’s in a tough position and it seems like he’s always got the loudest morons (on both sides) coming at his neck. I wouldn’t donate a cent to this University if they oust him (I already don’t tho, those student loans ain’t gonna pay themselves)

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Don’t know how it is now, but when I was a UVa undergraduate and graduate student — decades ago — everyone from a first-year student to the president of the University was addressed as “Mister” or “Ms.” It was as UVa as “first year” and “the Grounds”.

Addressing professors as “Mister” was UVa tradition, along with “first-year” and the “Grounds.” Jeffersonian tradition that we were a community of equals.

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Public university president is a terrible job now. If this board doesn’t do something stupid to him now, he’ll leave eventually.

Texas’ just did and I completely get it.

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The day I walked the Lawn to take my Ph.D., my mother told me, “I always hoped for a doctor in the family — but I meant a real one!

She was joking. I think 


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Mom always knows

I don’t know what’s on the BoV’s agenda today, but best I can tell this is a regularly scheduled quarterly meeting.

Also, Jim Ryan clerked for Rehnquist. Even though the BoV is 75% Youngkin appointees now, it’s not like Ryan is a flaming liberal or something.

Edit: Here’s the board agenda. I don’t see firing the President on it. https://bov.virginia.edu/meetings/june-4-6-2025-meeting-board

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Someone on the baseball thread said that

And meant to respond that if Jim Ryan spent more than maybe an hour of this work week thinking about the baseball program and coach, then that was entirely too much.

He heads a university with 26k+ students with a giant hospital system attached and a budget of 5.8 billion with savings worth 15 billion. The baseball program’s 6 million is literally 1/1000 or 0.1% of UVA’s budget. Based on 2000 working hours a year, that’s at most 2 hours a year he should spend on baseball.

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Should be doable now with the pitch clock if he leaves after the 7th inning stretch

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For the record, I don’t think he’s in hot water over athletics.

The tone with the BOV is the school is too liberal (I won’t use the actual topics to avoid the political rabbit hole). And the drama over the medical school is pretty big black eye for Ryan.

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They think the faculty are too liberal and don’t represent the full range of ideological/political perspectives. They have even suggested or at least implied that candidates for faculty positions should be asked about their political views. Of course, they definitely are opposed to DEI so it’s unclear to me how they can justify hiring faculty with diverse political views if they think DEI is so terrible. A bit of a logical contradiction, to say the least.

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I greatly appreciate this, and I hope everyone else will follow your lead in that regard.

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More political/thought diversity and tolerance for it is an absolute good.

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Yeah, the hospital/med school stuff isn’t great and Ryan is the med school dean’s boss, but I don’t hold Ryan that responsible for the hospital side. The medical education side yes. But maybe that’s just my misperception.

I tried to address the school being too liberal criticism by talking about Ryan’s conservative credentials, clerking for Rehnquist. He’s got a lot of competing factors to balance and alienating a plurality of students and parents on one side or the other doesn’t help anything.

UVA’s the flagship school, you don’t want to mess with it too much and damage the prestige. DeSantis isn’t doing anything much at UF for example. New College is the lab.

Dammit, wrote another wall of text.

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PhD’s are the real ones, though. They came first and date back to at least the 12th century. Doctors were called “doctors” because their education was considered comparable to what a PhD learns.

I mean, probably. Distinctions dating back ~900 years are probably a little shaky.

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Yeah this is true. Had a HS Latin teacher who had a PhD and was incredibly proud of it. Of course most taking Latin were looking to go into the medical field so he was always reminding who the term Dr. actually belonged to :joy:

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https://x.com/rtdopinions/status/1930543630034313717?s=46&t=PzMfboQ4ofEF6ToybLUcpg

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