Yeah, Princeton is done. They needed to win today to even have a long shot, I think
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But as an 11-seed youâre playing a 6-seed in the first round like a Florida or potentially Clemson â teams we beat away from home.
Providence also has two good wins away from home â bubble team Seton Hall and probably 4-seed Creighton.
Seton Hall has only two good wins away from home â both bubble teams, Providence and St. Johns.
St Johnsâ only two good wins away from home â again, bubble teams Villanova and Seton Hall.
16 brackets from today just posted to Bracket Matrix
ââlast three byesâââ
Mississippi St 16/16
Colorado 16/16
St Johnâs 16/16
ââ-Daytonââââ-
Oklahoma 15/16
New Mexico 15/16
Texas A&M 14/16
UVA 8/16
ââ-outââââ-
Seton Hall 6/16
Providence 4/16
Pitt 4/16
Indiana St 3/16
Thatâs enough for me to conclude weâre behind A&M in the consensus and ahead of Providence and Pitt. I want to see more to conclude weâll be ahead of Seton Hall when all the brackets are in, but it looks very likely.
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Good tweet. This gets to something Eamonn said in his Bubble Watch intro today, which is that all over the country fans (and announcers) have been claiming that such-and-such team âjust punched their ticketâ⊠but fail to recognize that only relative results matter, and that âthis resume would be good enough in most yearsâ does not mean itâs good enough this year.
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Time for Greg Sankey to file a TRO to expand the tourney right now.
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Admit what the team is in January and you wonât have to stress in March. I wonât be upset if we donât make the tourney because I knew in January that we just werenât that good and really didnât deserve it. Last night was only more confirmation of that.
In fact, Iâll be a little relieved if we donât get in. The only good that could come from it is getting Reece a tournament win. We arenât going anywhere even if we do make it in. The chances of something bad (like yet another horrible first round showing with all of college basketball watchingâŠagain) are much, much higher than anything good happening beyond getting Reece one tournament win.
Iâm not stressing Sunday at all and as an added bonus, I donât have to hang on Lu-nards every word. Not that I did before.
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Fwiw I think this philosophy is actually a good one, in the way itâs currently applied (even though I quibble with the NET algorithm). But thatâs Stats Nerdery so Iâll leave that for the other thread.
That is a fair opinion, but not one that I share. I want these guys to see their name in the bracket tomorrow REALLY badly. We are not good, but have fought our asses off to get in this position (since it looked like there was no hope after the loss at Wake).
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I have such a hard time understanding this mindset. We would go into the tourney with absolutely nothing to lose. We havenât been an underdog in so many years and youâd be relieved we donât get the chance to make some noise, however unlikely.
Also who gives a shit what other people think of our program. Theyâll be rooting against us? So what. We either prove them wrong or we lose as an underdog. Beats the hell out of the NIT
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Really do think we are going to be the one left off this list.
No elite wins, failed the eye test atrociously at times, and committee will feel justified saying âUVA had itâs chance and gave it away to NC Stateâ.
Would feel weird with only 3 acc teams in though. Of course if NC State wins today that would doom us I think in terms of the 4 acc quota being met.
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As some of those people are recruits weâd like to have, I do.
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For recruiting, an NCAA bid is better than an NIT one. And itâs not close.
If weâre selling that we missed the tourney two of the last three years, thatâs a bad sell.
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I understand the point of view (not wanting the team to be embarrassed in the tourney), but not making the tourney at all is also an embarrassment (and a guaranteed one, whereas in making the tourney thereâs a chance we might do respectably). So Iâm all for getting into the NCAAT.
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Are recruits impressed if we miss the tournament?
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None of what recruits are hearing is any different than what theyâve been hearing for the last decade plus. And I donât think losing a game in Dayton or R64 changes anyoneâs mind. But playing in the NIT 2/3 years isnât a good look either
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I donât want to go to the NIT either. Missing the tournament doesnât look good. Making the tournament and shitting our pants (which this team seems even more prone to do than the very talented UVA teams that have done it in the past) looks much worse.
He says in one of the replies he thinks UVA is safe because of the resume average. Regardless of what happens this year should end up being the most insightful as to what matters the most in the current era of selection. Believe the NET began in 18/19 and the quads a few years before that (using RPI at first)
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I was just thinking of UVAâs performance, not really other teams. But if youâre looking for how anyone might do beyond the first round (I.e the 32 teams left standing), youâre looking at Q1 type of games. In our Q1 games we were 2-6. Out two wins vs Florida and Clemson were by a total of 4 points. Our 6 losses were by an average of 22 points. Thatâs really bad and strongly suggests that not only is UVA highly unlikely to make it past the second round, it is likely to be a blowout that is unwatchable, the opposite of March Madness.
It worries me that our SOR dropped from 25 to 33 after the loss. A big drop! Thatâs basically the metric weâre clinging to as our ticket into the tourney.
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