šŸ€ Greenbrier Tip-Off: Virginia vs Butler, Sunday, 23 November 2025, 1400, CBSSN

Post up offense is not efficient, statistically. And we went to it way too much. The beautiful ball movement of the first few games was completely absent today. Way too much dribbling and trying to beat a man 1x1. Really ugly offense today….

Hope it’s an anomaly

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That’s a good point. A lot of bone head plays today that all of these ā€˜veterans’ should know better. Only Chance and Grünloh get a pass on that. We also missed an odd number of shots at the rim, just like Friday.

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Sorry I was a little on edge earlier. Personal shots aren’t cool, or warranted no matter how heated these threads can get.

The same in game complaints and overreactions are annoying but my frustrations were compounded by the way these games were called. It was just such inconsistent officiating which made for a really ugly game. And then you throw in how we couldn’t buy a bucket when we needed one or committed brutal turnovers at times. Just an all around crap game.

Credit to Butler though - they genuinely played well and hit big shots. they looked like a team with more continuity and they played a really aggressive/tough game that threw us off.

What I don’t get are the posts about resetting expectations. I have no expectations at this point. I see a team talented enough to be really good but also see some flaws that could make us a bubble team if they’re not fixed. A flawed team that’s still finding its footing is exactly what I was expecting in November but saying we need to recalibrate expectations is kind of ridiculous. If you thought we’d look like a top 15 team 6 games then that’s on you.

Would like to see us drop the full court pressure. We had tired legs at the end and it doesn’t really do anything to deter the other team. I’d rather us get set instead of picking up full court and then scrambling to pick up our man. Makes it easier for the offense to get to the rim. We also gotta figure out ball screens but these struggles are fairly fixable, to an extent. We won’t be a great defensive team, but acting like our defense will suck the rest of the year because it sucks now is lame. Some patience is warranted

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Matta killed us with the high screen in the second half … our guard would get picked and Kenny G would blow past our matador defense to the rim.

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Its ok and happens.

You wanna feel better? I tried the free FUBO trial for this game and when I got on the app it was all soccer games no Virginia

hellooooo to my 14.99 Latino version FUBO trial

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I think you confused Michael Ajayi with Joel Ayayi, old man. He hasn’t played college hoops in like 5 years.

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100 percent this.

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Just watched on replay. Haven’t read this thread so I’m sure this is well trodden but:

  1. Defense. WOOF. Not the whole game but a lot of head scratching stuff. Poor awareness. Malik was especially rough. Jacari and De Ridder too.
  2. Our offense consisted of relying on Chance (or another guard) to beat their guy off the dribble and offensive put backs. No real flow. Overall our shot quality was poop compared to theirs.

If we had their shot quality we would’ve won by 20.

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Oh great now I’m reading above and it’s people complaining of people being critical. Walked into that I guess. Well, the above are just my observations! Caveat caveat etc

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We’re sorry, Dad

Thads a real one.

College Basketball Mascots GIF by Xavier Men's Basketball

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Triple post incoming

I should’ve just read this bc agree with everything.

go Hoos, onto the next.

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yeah I’m sorry as well for being negative during the in game threads. Just passionate and get worked up, top ten paid roster doesn’t men’s top 10 results like embrace said. I’ll avoid the in game threads when I’m getting angry at the screen lol

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And to think I was gonna have you on my podcast…

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What’s the pod name, I’ll add you to my rotation

Hi team-

Bottomless font of positivity tonyburnertt here.

It was an ugly game in a weird, very slippery environment, from a team of guys who have played 5 games with each other. It was poorly officiated and our best player took a knock to the head almost immediately.

Lots to teach from on both ends of the court. Odom probably got outcoached today, but he’s a good in-season coach and I have decent confidence they he’ll improve on the deficiencies we saw today.

This was not a sky is falling game. If you told me we’d go 1-1 at this event before the season I would have taken it.

Let’s just hope the team learns from it and we’re getting the bad shooting games out early.

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This is my longer term worry. I knew defense was meh. But we did a really bad job getting good shots. Offense is very good despite that, but it’s capped if we can’t get better shots against P5 caliber athletes.

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Past two games - 14 assists on 53 made buckets. No bueno.

Admittedly, we’ve been spoiled on defense by prior regime, but our guys spend a lot of time chasing their man after the first dribble and off of screens. A lot of time…….

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We struggled off the DHO and ball screens, wouldn’t mind switching there, Onyenso/TDR are not going to play great perimeter defense but it’s better than Mallory getting walled by the screen and allowing a wide open three. Yes Butler probably doesn’t shoot 50/40 on the season, but some of that was defense.

Other observation: I get that a loud portion of the fan base wants to play fast, but this team is not good in transition (47th percentile in efficiency) and we keep trying to force it (86th percentile in % of possessions) and we need less 1 on 2 praying for a foul call in those situations.

Not by any means a Hall truther, and he had a rough game today, but worth noting our starting PG played only 11 minutes due to foul trouble, and our best player had blood dripping from his eye for the whole game.

Not pressing the panic button, but the fan side of me that was hoping this was a legit top 20 team is coming back to earth. I remember after last season saying I’d just be happy with a tournament birth and I still feel we are well on track for that. We lose to Dayton or UMD and I’ll start to get worried.

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Reading through the thread I may be in the minority here but I’m mildly bullish on Tillis? Drew a few fouls, had a couple back downs that led to baskets which I was not expecting to be his game against P5 bodies. Feel like he will play meaningful minutes in ACC play.

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