I’ve heard so few people talk about Mark Mangino I had to look up his name, and I was just talking about KU’s 2007/08 run 3 days ago. I say that to say I disagree.
I get what you’re saying, but I don’t think the future is nearly as bleak as you’re making it out to be. First time coaches take some time to get things churning and TE is not showing any signs that are not expected of coaches entering similar situations. Patience let it play out. If it’s bombs in 5 years, blow it up and start over, nothings really loss.
Lol love it. There will be plenty of time to freak out during the season, and a lot of things to freak out over. Trust me this is going to be a strange and interesting season.
If you need support let me know, I’ll fly out to Dallas and we can toss back a few Shiner Bocks and Ranch Waters and talk it out.
Yeah we prob won’t play in the ACC championship in the next 5 years but I’d hope to see steady improvement rather than the regression we saw under Bronco (we had that on the offensive side but somehow ended up with one of the worst P5 defenses). And I want to at least beat VT when we’re the better team and favored. Bronco went 1-2 against 3 dogshit vt teams the last 3 years.
Love the Mark Stoops comp. Think that’s a very realistic and fair one.
@Tpain totally agree. Bronco’s program was regressing, but the gaudy numbers of last season made the medicine go down better. The chances of duplicating that success was slim. Progress is all I want to see. Build it up get some momentum and build something that’s organic and the program can get behind. If TE does that the rest will come.
So distilling my hyperbolic pessimism into my actual level-headed take. I’m really worried that the early recruiting struggles have placed a lot of pressure on TE to succeed this first year. By the time those first TE classes start hitting upper class men level they’re going to be rough. So, we need to turn things around to get recruiting moving. But the O Line problems and D problems are going to make things very very challenging
Early recruiting returns certainly a big concern, I hope we can bridge the gap with transfers while developing the unheralded guys. that’s kind of the wildcard now.
Agree with everyone here. The late start and the 1st time HC was a recipe for disaster in hitting the ground running on the recruiting trail and it appears to be playing out that way in full. These are the things that can snowball if unchecked. I will say, I don’t think it’s as detrimental as it is in basketball where 1 recruit can change everything, and where 4s and 5s are the name of the game. You get a little more runway in football and there’s more growth and development.
That said, I don’t want to continue the Uva tradition of getting 1s and 2s and coaching them up to be 3s. I’m over hearing the story of “this guy had no P5 offers and look at him now starting for us at…” There’s a reason why that guy had no P5 offers, not every one is a miss by the other 50 some odd P5 programs and you just happened to find the diamond.
I’m officially calling the Tony Elliot era a complete and utter failure. You may say it is way too early to make such a claim, and that I have no evidence to support it, and you would be right to do so, but I’m going to make the call anyway.
In a few years you will remember me as the first to get this right. If I’m wrong, I’m sure you’ll forget it.
Keeping with my Mark Stoops comparison. First time head coach - hired at the end of November (not quite December 10 ). His first class? Highest rated at Kentucky at the time.
Despite that class, he went 2-10, 5-7, 5-7, 7-6 in his first four years. Keeping with my optimism: Thankfully we don’t play in the SEC (yet).
Interesting stat on Mark Stoops, I’m guessing UK hasn’t has much to clamor about on the recruiting trail since Tim Couch, the Hefty Lefty, and Bear Bryant days? Virginia has some higher highs than UK so matching that may have been hard.
I do think no matter what TE will avoid the 2-10, truly believe that. the back to back 5-7 could be real.
Lol at y’all freaking out over one post practice video. He had a much more positive interview on coaches corner just earlier this week. Probably was just a bad day of practice yesterday. R-E-L-A-X