WARNING - NECKEL STAT
Jacari was in the top 20 of free throw rate for all players who shot more than 200 3 pointers
17 Likes
How many players total shot 200 plus 3s? Am actually interested to know this.
1 Like
1 Like
Really? I woulda guessed like 30, maybe
1 Like
He and Malik both have really positive 3pt to FTR stats. Clearly something they were targeting
5 Likes
I think Cuts is doing his CftC here as he been typing for an hour
4 Likes
On the plus side, even though the sample size is low, at least it skewed toward improvement against better competition rather than the other way!
Idk, iMac could really bomb - but he was also a big reason teams could blow us up with pressure (he wasn’t alone, of course, but he was almost always on the floor) and his defense wasn’t good.
We imagine Odom trying to play high pressure on ball defense and get out and run - he’d have been a good secondary break three-point machine - but those aren’t his strengths.
I guess I feel like there’s a slight disproportionate fan thing happening re: iMac that remembers his shooting but isn’t remembering the clear tradeoffs in his game as much; especially as a staple of a lineup. All the times where we played very poor defense by CTB standards last season or where we struggled to even put the ball on the floor and couldn’t run the new offense because teams got under us - he was a significant contributing factor in all of those things.
I think my general opinion is that he’s a perfect piece for a CTB-style team when we had more talent. Run him off of screens away from the ball, generate an opportunity for him to knock down a good look at an elite level, and support him as one piece within great systemic team defense.
But a system like Odom’s that wants all of its guards to both individually and collectively put pressure on the opposition through their creation and their defensive pressure - I don’t think the fit is amazing.
10 Likes
Yeah this is my b here. I was speaking to his Ft rate against A-B teams but didn’t realize how few he played last year when his FT rate spiked
3 Likes
IIRC, Jabri has been the king of this stat (at least he was in 2023-24)
1 Like
This thread was giving me serious “glitch in the matrix” vibes.
Then I found where we talked at length on this in the blue and white thread last October. There was a good dialog about his strengths and weaknesses back then. @rushdacote mic dropped that one by the way.
IMac is a good player and a great shooter, but he had warts too. White has his own, but I’m willing to roll them bones.
3 Likes
If iMac had Malik freaking Thomas next to him, that would probably help.
5 Likes
It would. I doubt it’s in much question that iMac would do better on this year’s roster under Odom than with last year’s roster under Sanchez.
We also haven’t seen White play alongside other players that can help elevate his game, either, though.
Doesn’t really change the way either of them like to play, or what we’re trying to do. Odom’s offense is much closer to our “new” offense last year than it is Sides.
We had no lack of shooting/spacing support for iMac last year. That still didn’t empower him off of the bounce.
Odom is a versatile coach, but I think folks are sleeping on, a bit, how his system has a very specific design and goal in how he prefers to play, much like CTB’s did - just very different stylistically. He doesn’t really have many players like iMac (even similar ones but not as good) in his past portfolio. Ashworth is probably the closest - much greater defensive liability but also considerably more capable with the ball in his hands.
Of course, we won’t know until we see it (and we may still never because there won’t be a direct comparison) but I do think Odom made the decision not to make iMac an offer he couldn’t refuse for that very reason and that, it’s TBD how good White will be (I’m optimistic) but his player profile is very much aligned with the kinds of guys Odom is trying to assemble.
10 Likes
iMac is going to get the Reyne Smith role in Louisville’s offense and have a career shooting year. A lot of casuals are going to be tweeting his stats.
I’d take Jacari though in Odom’s offense.
(Also iMac got abused by Reyne in our two games last year)
4 Likes
We lost both games to Louisville by scores of 70-50 and 81-67. In both games, there was only one Louisville Cardinal with an individual offensive rating below 100: Terrence Edwards in the first game (93 O-rating) and Chucky Hepburn in the second game (87 O-rating).
Our whole team got abused by Louisville last year.
IMac has holes in his game, but let’s not pin the blame for those two blowouts on him.
1 Like
I remember watching game 1 and trying to figure out how Louisville was so good at finding mismatches with their offense every possession. @chavlicek15 said “Fresh. They are just better at every position”
That shit hurt!
11 Likes
Nah, didn’t say that’s why we lost. Said that iMac got worked. Reyne had the highest ortg of all players in both games but watch the highlights and you’ll see him struggling to keep up with Reyne’s off ball movement.
Bit of a pot shot at Isaac, I get it. He’ll be better In Louisville’s offense for sure though, just think he’s a one dimensional player whereas Jacari has more upside in other areas.
2 Likes
After spending some more time with the Jacari tape I feel even better re: his fit with Odom as opposed to iMac (and I think he’s a better player in a vacuum too).
22 Likes
Happy to be proven wrong!
Found this video in case you’re sicko like me and watch to watch 49 minutes of Jacari White buckets
6 Likes
@Cuts_from_The_Corner Not sure if you realized this, but two of these three are against our guy Malachi Poindexter
https://x.com/CutsfromCorner/status/1928488459691262055
3 Likes