I would be very happy if someone gave me $982 billion but maybe we should keep the discussion grounded in reality.
I would only be happy if I were gifted $983 billion personally
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Hah exactly what we need… a 6’10 3/4 who can score.
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I agree that Gardner didn’t really fully understand until half way through his first season, but that would be the same with any first year anyways, plus they’d have to gain weight, learn to overcome adversity for the first time in a college program etc. Which a seasoned player wouldn’t.
However, to your point I think they need to atleast have 2 years available moving forward for it to fully be worth it.
With all of that said- since those guys are the baseline and stabilizing force of our team we DO need high upside players as well so I would also sprinkle in a Jarin Stevenson if possible but we need to allow them to play!
You mean like Dre?
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But that’s what he’s saying that we should go after high 3’s/ low 4’s that have been successful in college because they’ve developed, removed the weight concern, we have video on them, and can no longer transfer. However players like Traudt CAN transfer after enjoying some nice Italian cooking, beaches and world class training all season.
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That’s exactly what he’s saying I believe- that’s why they would be tough to keep and have the option to transfer like Traudt after enjoying our training benefits.
Meanwhile guys who have been to college, have lived on their own, matured a bit, and see they can contribute to a perennial ACC power and want to win at the highest level will contribute.
Personally I was MUCH more mature from my first year to my second/ third year. Lots of eye openers during that time.
So if the area he needs improvement is rim protection, I wonder where he could go to improve defensively.
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More relevant statlines. Just EYBL, because trying to find info on Adidas or UA kids seems impractical.
Isaiah Abraham:
https://basketball.exposureevents.com/202866/event/documents/playerstatistics?playerid=3600242
Freitag:
https://basketball.exposureevents.com/202866/event/documents/playerstatistics?playerid=3593634
Bishop Boswell:
https://basketball.exposureevents.com/202866/event/documents/playerstatistics?playerid=3603756
Caleb Williams:
https://basketball.exposureevents.com/202866/event/documents/playerstatistics?playerid=3600237
Ngongba:
https://basketball.exposureevents.com/202866/event/documents/playerstatistics?playerid=3600244
Who am I missing?
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I disagree with this- stud post players want the ball and an offense geared towards them which we don’t do. We keep discussing which bigs have we truly developed and the numbers have been *very low.
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I’m skeptical there’s much we can do to add a skill that he doesn’t naturally have.** Shot blockers often start out as raw athletes who need lots of work in other areas to be able to stay on the floor, but I can’t think of a guy that we turned into a shot blocker who wasn’t already.
** And to be clear, he might have it. I’ve watched the kid for a total of like 10-15 minutes and seen one weekend of box scores. Don’t want to over-interpret limited data…
I think we disagree because I think “stud bigs” are pretty obsolete and even the teams that seem to have them are successful because of their guard play and floor spacing, not because they feed their “stud big” iso in the post. UConn’s best players in March were Tristan Newton and Jordan Hawkins with Sanogo benefiting from the floor spacing for easy dunks and open drives to the rim, not feeding him one on one and watching him back down another post player.
Our best front courts have been Akil Mike Scott, Wilkins Gill, Hunter Mamadi. We were a top 10 program for 6 years and national title winner without a stud low post option. We dont need back to the basket bigs. We need guards who have 3pt shooting gravity and athletic defensively versatile wings. The big in our system can be a low ranked low usage big man.
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Bringing this back- I think he was only referring to our strategies with the bigs and how we can get them acclimated to the packline and mitigate some of the other variables like weight room, college level game tape (even playing at a mid major is typically more beneficial than playing a highschool game), understanding durability/injury issues etc.
Also depends on how we use him. If he’s playing primarily as a big wing, he doesn’t need big shot blocking numbers. Murphy seems to be who he’s drawing the most comparisons to…Trey only blocked 43 shots in 86 career games, and only 11 the year he played here.
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Yay- more scoring! Could he be the next Trey Murphy and *learn to play defense? Trey wasn’t a big disruptor in his one year here but since we have Dunn, Minir and Buchanan could possibly cover him?
It’s Trigga!!!
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I think we are saying the same thing 
Im 100% on board with Gills, Atkins, Akil’s and now Minor who grew at other programs… Incoming studs to me are top 50/60 players like Traudt, Mamadi, Buchanan and Stevenson who are nice to sprinkle in on top once we have foundational pieces.
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A couple things on this Trigga Trey discourse:
- if Jarin is TM3 part 2, then yeah, that’s awesome. No arguments. But is he?
- I don’t really think anyone (well you never know, so I’ll just say “I’m not saying”) is saying, do we really want Jarin? I think it’s assumed we really want Jarin, but we (again “I”) are trying to figure out what he’d be giving us next year (and maybe the year after) in the 2.7% chance he decides to play for us next year.
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Considering none of us knew Trigga was Trigga…
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