I think Ty would be an amazing coach. Intense, but amazing.
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Ugh, this discussion is so depressing. Does the VIP section steer clear of this topic?
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Old school here - greatest college basketball coach was John Wooden.
10 championships; unparalleled winning streaks for menās basketball.
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UCLA was ahead of its time in recruiting the best players, having an excellent program for paying players.
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I want nothing more than JWilly to remain at UVa and take over when CTB retires in 5 yrs, but I have a nagging feeling he may be moving north before then.
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He was great until 2011. Then people kept treating him like he was great the next 10 years even though he wasnāt
Tbh didnāt care about the intensity in and of itself. Cared about the image he tried to create and the asshole he was behind closed doors - and sometimes right out in front of people to see!
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Harris also played some 4 in 2011 and 2012.
Down the stretch in 2016, Bennett went to a lot of small ball ā four of Brogdon, Perrantes, Hall, Shayok and Thompson with either Gill or Tobey (with some Wilkins sprinkled into the mix as smallball 4).
Probably not coincidentally, during Bennettās tenure our guards shot threes better in 2016 than in any other year ā 41.8% (207-495). Whatās No. 2? This year ā so far ā at 40.2% from UVa guards (119-296).
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Iād prefer he gets some HC experience tbh. It seems we have TB for at least 4 more years (assuming either Bond or Traudt stay all 5). Let J Willy get his feet wet for 3-4 years then come home
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i see the 3 guards in '19 at 40.4% (Ty, Kyle, Kihei) and then it goes to 40.8% if you include Dreā¦ did you include someone else? kody would pull it down a bit (4/15) but the volume is so low it stays above 40% even if you drop Dre as wellā¦
Iām actually okay with the thought of JWilly leaving for the same reason. Love him to go to a small P5 get some success then come home.
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My issue would be that we trust Jwilly here at Uva, donors will give him money and support, plus a model of consistency with the fan base and recruiting to take over everything AS-IS. What if he gows somehwere else and isnāt successful? Will it be due to his ability or lack of resources at a new place etc? I think him staying would be the right move.
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39.5% from guards as listed on the roster in 2019 ā which includes Dre, Stattmann, and Key.
2023 includes Dunn, Murray and Coleman.
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ahh, Key really pulling it down there with his injury. makes sense.
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Then we will learn he isnāt the guy for the job and save the program 3-4 years of finding that out the hard way lol and if J Willy isnāt a successful HC Iām sure it wonāt be too tough to get him back as associate HC
Hopefully he gets a chance and succeeds but either way itās better for everyone, including J Willy, for him to get head coaching experience while we still have Tony than to have him learning on the fly after TB retires
Well letās take Scheyer and hell why not Hubert Davis as examples. Regardless of how ābadā dook is this year they still are tournament worthy and would not be as bad without some of their injuries. (Man I hate standing up for dook). Towards the end, Roach Kās teams began to underperform until this last Final Four year, so maybe Scheyer picked up some bad habits from that experience OR is planning on doing the opposite of what was done during that time line as a coach. This also means that maybe JWilly would do some different things as well as head coach- changes that TB may not want to do ihis systemā¦If those changes DONāT work then JWilly could revert back to what he learned by coaching with TB.
Think of ANY business outside of basketball, for example if you are the son/daughter of a business owner and your parent raised you in those ranks to know the inside/outside of the company. You would then be the best person to take it over *if youāre trying to keep the same infrastructure and success model intact.
Hubert Davis- on the other hand has had a much higher level of variance due to some pre-existing holes in the UNC model (lack of defense and ball chuckers on the team), so that has kind of exacerbated some of the problems that theyāve had, YET they made the Final Four last year, and this year they have slowly begun to turn it around.
Those are two recent examples of coaches coming in and āholding serveā with historically relevant programs (Iām not saying theyāre perfect)ā¦
Anyways I got away from my point a bit. My concern is that hiring a coach coming back after a theoretically āsub parā experience at another school would not be the splash that weād hoped, versus taking over a system, school, environment, recruitment, existing coaching team that you already know.
As an example weāve had previous coaches on TBās staff leave and coach at other places for several years now. Would you want any of them back now to take over?
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No I wouldnāt want any of them back (other than McKay but he may retire before TB anyway). And I donāt want J Willy if heās not good enough for the job either. Keeping him on staff there is no way to find out if heās good enough or not. Better for him to sink elsewhere than here if heās not the guy. Iām not tied to Bennettās style of play so I donāt feel the need to stay within the Bennett tree (although knowing UVA we probably will).
The scenario where he canāt hack it elsewhere but he would work here is plausible, but significantly less likely than him simply being good enough or not being good enough. Not a likely enough scenario to build a plan around imo. If J Willy stays here Iāll be happy because the good times should continue to roll but not because I think itās best for post-Bennett planning
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Yeah I hear what youāre sayingā¦I think it would work with him staying here *if he had the intangibles that TB would look for in a replacement. We have such a UNIQUE system that nobody else in the country runs, that all of the parts of the system are very valuable and hard to replace. Using existing coaches that KNOW our system would be like replacing the parts of a Lexus with Toyota componentsā¦atleast it will work vs. a brand new car that may *not be or reliable as our Lexus.
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Wait wait wait ā¦ what??? Duke wasnāt great from 2012-2022?
5 times a 2 seed, 2 times a 1 seed, once a 3 seed and once a 4 seed ā¦ which means they had very good regular seasons those years.
Madness:
1 Championship
1 other Final 4
3 other Elite 8ās
1 other Sweet 16
Who else has been better consistently than that?