šŸ’° Name-Image-Likeness (NIL) Discussion

The legal questions get complicated ā€“ and are different for state schools and private schools, because private schools have more autonomy. But essentially, the NCAA cannot punish schools for doing something they are legally obligated to do. A contract (which is what a membership agreement is) is unenforceable if it requires you to break the law.

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Agree, and also want to add, the rules of voluntary membership organizations get challenged in federal court all the time. Thatā€™s exactly what the Alston case was: Plaintiffs challenging the NCAAā€™s voluntary rules.

As far as the complicated/boring enforcement stuff, it would really depend on how the law (if any) gets drafted, so I guess I should really say itā€™s way too premature. There are various draft bills out there to read in case anyone is super bored and has run out of toothpaste tubes to read.

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We would never do anything like this

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Haney, confidently, a week or two ago: Feds wonā€™t necessarily do enforcementā€¦

Nicole Auerbach, today (pay link, but the headline gives the gist)

@4547Lambeth who is interested in this stuff

Also, I just passed a building named Beekman Court on my walk to work. Should I stop in and see if their board is interested in a NIL deal? :joy:

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Yes,

A college sports oversight committee? Is this also the first step in the death march of the NC2A?

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Some weird shit in here.

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Guaranteeing health insurance for 8 years for sports related injuries post your eligibility. Good luck with that one

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I actually like many of the things being introduced in that bill.

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Trying to get rid of the one-time waiver rule in an NIL bill. Goodness. Zero chance of being implemented but Iā€™m sure our coaches would support anyway.

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This bill (or really any NIL bill) has as much chance of passing before 2025 as the one sitting on my desk that I made up in my head.

  1. The Senate only has about 3 months of time left in this session and I bet a large portion of it will be spent on the budget bills to avoid/shorten a government shutdown starting October 1.
  2. Thereā€™s basically no co-sponsors on this bill besides the 3 guys who introduced it. Thereā€™s not exactly broad Senate support for this.
  3. Thereā€™s no companion legislation in the House, so who knows whatā€™s going on over in that side.
  4. Once we hit 2024, nothingā€™s getting passed in the election year. Schumer probably allocates most of his Senate priorities to getting as many Judges confirmed as possible while he still has the majority.
  5. All this sounds just like a big favor to Charlie Baker to get him in the news cycle.
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Nailed it on reasons this NIL (or any for that matter) are nothing more than ahow and inside baseball posturing.

Also not lost on me is the 2 authorā€™s who drafted the billā€¦ l. Yā€™all can DM me for exact thoughts on both but Iā€™ll say seriously if this is the legislation those 2 have their staffs working on considering what else in on their deskā€¦ their priorities are way off and no wonder people have no faith in the process.

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Just gonna say that I was never a fan of Tuberville as a coachā€¦perhaps even less as a public servant. Feel free to delete thisā€¦

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Separate the politicians from the legislation. NCAA ainā€™t addressing it and maybe thereā€™s stuff in the proposed bill that wonā€™t fly or make sense, but jeez, as much as we whine about the NCAA and the out of control nature of the NIL, maybe, just maybe, some of the billl gives the NCAA and the schools a bit of a road map on putting some proverbial gutters on the NIL lane. When I order a steak, rare of course, I really donā€™t care about the cook when it comes out (what, you mean a VT grad made that!? Take it back! no one ever said).

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The NCAA doesnā€™t need a roadmap of ideas, it needs some sort of authority to regulate the way it wants without being sued and losing in court.

Put it this way, do you think this piece of legislation was actually written completely from scratch by the Senatorsā€™ staffers? Or do you think NCAA lobbyists gave those staffers a proposed bill with the exact language the NCAA desired?

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Sounds like someone understands how the political process works.

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Absolutely, Ideas are cheap and plentiful - of course NCAA had a hand in its drafting (as well as a few schools). But any ā€œsubstantiveā€ guidance that the NCAA can seize on to grow a spine is welcome.

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Oh, of course. Sure, lobbyists take senators out for dinner and golf, but thatā€™s just the senior people and only rarely. The vast majority of what they do, especially the 95% of the employees who donā€™t run the firm, is guide senators and representatives on how to put together bills. Specific wording, how the approvals and funding needs to work, who to approach and how to position it for the best chance of getting it passed, etc. At the federal level it is monstrously complex and getting a bill to the point that it actually does everything correctly requires a surprisingly large amount of work and understanding.

100% the NCAAā€™s lobbyists gave them a draft bill along with extensive notes on what was changeable and what wasnā€™t.

The juxtaposition of these bills having athlete safety and wellness sections with the conference realignment scramble, where schools are planning to fly their athletes cross country routinely to chase a buck, is sticking with me.

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Virtually all these NIL bills have one thing in common: They want everyone in college athletics to be able to make as much money as they can ā€“ except the college athletes.

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Im going to slightly change the subject. Which UVA athlete do you think makes the most money off NIL?

Edit: I have my guess although i could easily be way off

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