šŸ’° Name-Image-Likeness (NIL) Discussion

If most schools go with a distribution that’s similar to how the back pay is getting distributed (Texas Tech has explicitly said they are doing this), that’s $3.6 mil for bball for a school sharing the full capped amount of revenue. How would that number stack up with what programs are doing currently?

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I really don’t know what it is this year. Pretty sure it’s still based on class, probably higher than that for seniors now.

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Nah you already told us. Hahahah

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That sounds like the reverse…the revenue sharing becomes the base salary. Makes sense.

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Cool, no problem payroll deducting their tuition then…

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So does this create an incentive to cut some non-revenue sports and redirect those funds to the revenue generators? UVA would never do that, but if you’re VT and you’ve already made it clear you’re all in for football…

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Danny nailed this one…. It is what it is.

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Tell me about Johnny Jumpshot. How are his slides?

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Yeah, that’s how I’m thinking about it. Honestly, the more I see the plan, the less I dislike it. I like that we no longer have to keep up the polite charade of base salary masquerading as 3rd party NIL and that we will break the seal on schools paying athletes directly. The clearinghouse part on 3rd party NIL is going to be critical I think. Not because I think there’s a ā€œrightā€ amount for athletes to get from those deals, but I think the lack of transparency in the current system has bred instability.

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I like that in your world the two official categories of violation are ā€œfishyā€ and ā€œsketch.ā€ :joy:

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I’m not really sure where this fits, but this could have some broader implications:

https://www.axios.com/local/nashville/2024/12/20/vanderbilts-diego-pavia-wins-extra-year-of-eligibility

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I’m fascinated by how quickly the NIL numbers seem to be growing, and that they’re already starting to mildly mess with the NFL draft.

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I just glanced at this order and I really think the NCAA had some pretty compelling procompetitive rationales that I don’t think the judge gave compelling answers to.
Judges are gonna create a hash of this …

One of the rationales was differentiated product. I think that’s ultimately right. If college is where the big $$ is for a lot of kids, this ruling WILL have a distortionary effect. 24 year olds are bigger and smarter and faster and tougher etc than 22 year olds. There’s a whole layer of guys out there that will never be pros and the college game will become their pros, and they will absolutely learn to go JUCO.

The NCAA really F’d this up for decades but now the courts are just tying their hands. NCAA can’t compete as well with NFL/NBA if it’s just watered down pros. They need to find ways to keep it unique, and the way to keep it unique is to maintain the tie with the universities, but every time they try to do that, there’s some jabroni who was given a lifetime supply of robes, and just heard the word antitrust last week for the first time telling them they can’t.

Bad scene. Or maybe it’ll be fine, what do I know

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It’s a good word. I stand by it

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Can’t they just appeal it forever?

I’m no expert but the injunction is in place. The NCAA can appeal, but the injunction stays in place unless they win an appeal.

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Forgive me if I am ranting or overreacting a bit, but I think NIL and the Transfer Portal has become a cancer for college sports, and it’s killing them. Student athletes and now just athletes, showing up to school solely for legal reasons. Almost nobody goes to a program for anything but its monetary value. If a good player develops at a smaller school, they can just instantly leave. It’s so hard to build a program nowadays, especially without millions of dollars at your disposal. It feels like we will never have a Wichita State basketball team again, a small program that can beat anyone. I’ve always loved college sports over professional sports, but I have hesitated to say that I do now. NAIA feels more entertaining in some aspects. It just does not feel the same, it sucks.

If this post belongs more in another thread please move it there, but this seemed like an appropriate place.

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The same Wichita State that was built by the Koch brothers? I’m not sure they’re the best example to use.

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Wichita State was still a extremely small market team and relatively small compared to the teams they could beat back then. Who they were built by is irrelevant, they barely have even 300k NIL now. My point is that small teams are going to struggle more.