I would think Malik Reneau would fit that bill and I think he’s in play with Igor departing. Some of his earlier interests are filled and we could luck out on him.
To anyone: is there any indication that this will be the last year for such transfer rules? COVID is gone.
Honest question: I keep hearing that hundreds of players who enter the transfer portal won’t find a new home and will ultimately lose their scholarship.
However, I don’t understand the math of that. If each person in the portal had a scholarship and is looking for another, this seems like a game of musical chairs without removing any chairs.
I get that there are new freshmen coming in, but there are also graduating seniors who are leaving. On average there should be about as many leaving as entering college basketball.
Admittedly, COVID bonus years could reduce the number of seniors who leave for this year but how many people are realistically able to take advantage of that? (I’m not trying to start a conversation about Kihei here).
I know I’m missing something but I don’t know enough about the subject to figure it out. Help a Hoo out?
A lot is my guess. But this year is a new experiment. To belabor the metaphor. Last year (21-22) was a game of musical chairs where they added as many chairs as new people (I.e., extra schollies). But this year, they are taking away the extra chairs and the number of people looking for a seat will remain roughly the same.
Which is one of the reasons I bristle at all the “is it fair to [super senior] if they come back and they have to sit on the bench behind a developing player for X minutes per game?”
My answer : yes, absolutely. The unfairness is them being able to play at all.
@4547Lambeth i guess I’m sort of subtweeting you here (
) , so I should just ping you directly. (At least, I think it was you). And to be fair, you may have been talking about last year…
I think there’s also the fact that not every program uses all their scholarships every year, so those players might not find takers. Not every transfer hits the portal with their former team still interested in taking them back (see the conversations in some threads about coaches who push players out).
This was true before the various rules changes, each year there are a significant number of players who transfer out of D1, either to a school in a different division, or out of college basketball completely.
Also, if players trade “up”, it has to mean the same amount trade “down” and not everyone is willing to do that
Ultimately some players that transfer wont find lots of interests from other schools. In some cases none at all even
Lot of players like Nixon just giving it a shot when they really can’t stay
For sure. Love it in a situation like his.
Thanks everyone. That helps. I had completely forgotten that the extra year granted to all players due to COVID would create many more players than available scholarships.
Players can play a 5th year but now they count against the 13 scholarships each school has… so more players with fewer spots
Yeah, I was thinking more of guys like Gardner or Franklin last season and next season. Spring of 21, Tony’s recruiting them to transfer here. This year and next we’ll have good teams that can compete with a couple more pieces and you guys fit the bill. Then they come here and Tony decides that we’re not going to be able to win as much as he thought in 22 and 23, so he’s going to play younger guys (at the expense of Gardner and Franklin minutes, assuming they’re still working hard and doing everything asked of them) to improve them so they can win in 23-24 when Gardner and Franklin are gone already. And beyond the reduced playing time, Tony sold them on winning together and then he doesn’t try as hard to win with them? You could lump Clark last season in there too I guess. Wasn’t thinking of Clark next season at all.
Gardner is a super senior, too (will be)
Several years back I saw a breakdown by level of where D1 transfers wound up. Pre-portal mind you. It was over 30% that were not in D1 the next season. Transfers, especially before last year, were heavily weighted toward low D1 conferences. If you’re transferring down from there, well you’re not going D1. And then some of it is just mislabeling departures as transfers, guys that weren’t really intending to go to another college.
Remember when this guy was in first round mocks for half a season at VT?
Yeah, but if he transferred here with the understanding that it was a 2 year plan, then that’s different than Clark coming for 4 years and getting a free 5th one in the middle of his time here.
Wow yea… a lifetime ago
I remember when he had a good first half in Charlottesville and then Kody dunked on him. Hasn’t been the same since.
If Kody yams on you you should retire
Maybe I’m being pedantic (ok, definitely) but I feel like you’re saying that Tony’s original promise just perpetuated the unfairness of the 5th year. Which, yes, I agree. If Tony did make the promise, then he perpetuated the unfairness. That’s the cost of Tony agreeing to participate in the unfair system.
I mean, my overarching point is that “fairness” might not be a good frame to consider PT, because once you introduce that frame, it cuts multiple ways. Tbh, I think it’s unfair that I’m 5’8”, unathletic, and unskilled, because I would’ve loved some D-1 PT! 
Kody had like a 1/10 SD/DA (successful dunk/dunk attempt) ratio. If Nolley gave one up to Kody, that’s bad. Real bad.