Finally this is done. Lets move on
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Feels more like a temporary way station onto something worse, but maybe better if youāre an optimist (Iām not)
I donāt know if Iām okay with this or if I hate it, because Iām not really sure what things wouldāve looked like in a few years if the ACC had done nothing.
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Just have college football break away from the NCAA already. Preserve the old conferences for everything else.
Give us back the old SWC and Big 8 rivalries. Throw VPI and Rutgers and Cuse and BC and WVU and Louisville and Pitt back into the Big East. Or better yet, the Metro Atlantic or Sun Belt.
And Maryland can eat a giant turd sandwich.
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Wellā¦. Thatās certainly interesting. Really does feel like this conference is now just a placeholder until we get to whatever the next big shift is. This isnāt a conference that makes any sense in terms of lasting for the long term. Just a grouping of convenience for now.
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UVA vs Stanford swim meet > Duke vs UNC basketball
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Agree just told someone this is a stepping stone on the way to something else. At this point I am numb to it all and at least with this we have something real to talk about.
As far as I feel the ACC I grew up with died 20 yrs ago and Iām okay with that. Change is inevitable and father time is 99-0. Iām still going to fly up to Charlottesville for games Iām still buying tickets and gear and posting on here. And despite my bitching and whining I will continue to do so as long as UVa continues to participate in athletics.
Itās not worth the mental space for me to fret or whinge about the loss of a man man construction that effectively only as as much value as Iām willing to grant it.
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Itās a hapless mess considering that the ACC could have had better options even just a few months ago.
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For me nothing has really felt right after round robin play was lost in conferences. There are schools that donāt play for years. Conferences have been dead a long time.
I personally prefer the old ways, but we will see. I am in the camp that it was a decision that had to be made. I am surprised that State flipped. Good for them, would explain some of the vitriol from UNC.
Who knows where this goes. I am not worried about a landing spot for us. I am concerned for some other schools though, schools I have ties to (cough).
The best way forward for most of the schools was to try to be more attractive than the Big XII in a few years in the next round, which I think is a decent possibility. It had to be done, even though it is ridiculous. If there is a lifeboat available you donāt question the terms. I am surprised but pleased they got the votes.
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Just realized that the 3 additions make it less likely for us to get a home and home with UNC or Duke in the acc regular season.
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What many here and on many sports boards across the universe have been saying
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In a way are ACC originals like UVA, Clemson, NC State, and UNC to blame here for the death of the ACC as we know it?
Feels like that was the 1st trigger and the 2nd trigger was the Pac-12 becoming the Pac-4. Once there was smoke that teams were trying to leave, seemed like that really kicked all of this off despite holding steady when plenty of previous opportunities were on the table.
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Confirmation it was NC State that flipped and SMU no revenue for 9 years!
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Couple of additional details, league sources told @TheAthletic: - NC State flipped and voted yes - SMU will forgo ACC TV revenue for 9 years
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9 years!!! Hilarious. But in all seriousness I donāt see why SMU in the ACC couldnāt pull a TCU with NIL.
Playinā for blood, and this time itās legal.
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I see SMU as real wild card in this deal. They come in for free, have tons of alumni money to play with, and are very jealous of the recent success their cross town rival has had. They are going to spend for football success which is what the conference needs.
I also think that Stanford may push football a little more too. They are not going to want to be caught flat footed again if (when) the next round of realignment happens.
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Conferences have become meaningless. Theyāre just an accumulation of schools ā like a hedge fund buying a bunch of unrelated corporations. The idea of regional rivalries is long gone, and how much of a rivalry can it be, anyway, when youāre playing each other less often, or maybe even not at all?
At some point, weāll have three or four giant conferences, and they will stage their own college football playoffs and their own basketball tournaments, and everyone else will be picking up crumbs. Whoās going to stop them? The NCCAA is toothless, and the media companies will happily pay truckloads of money for broadcast and streaming rights.
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Boo this move
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So I guess this is the end of listening to Bill Walton talk about the āConference of Champions?ā
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Iām assuming private school #'s arenāt available, but for these public universities to have this kind of debt is so irresponsibleā¦ I canāt believe this is allowed.
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9 years is through 2033 and the TV deal ends in 2036. SMU may never receive ACC TV money if the conference breaks up when the B1G and SEC contracts are up for renewal in 2030 and 2034, respectively.
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There are two negative issues here:
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the revenue disparity between the ACC and the B1G/SEC. This doesnāt fix that. None of the three schools are national powers in revenue sports. What it does do is potentially water down the individual school portion in the future.
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the travel for student athletes, the cost to the schools for travel, and the impact traveling to the west coast and back has on the next game, particularly in basketball.
On the positive side, Stanford is the absolute king of non-revenue sports. They certainly elevate the ACC in that arena.
On the negative side, one of the recruiting advantages UVA might have for local recruits for which weāre competing with Stanford (your friends and family will never see you play in person) is now gone.
I think the negatives outweigh any positives and it is just using artificial means to keep the conference alive.
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