Pony Express rides again.
Cal’s debt is mostly for its stadium renovation/earthquake retrofit, which had to be done or there’s no place to play/ no football program. Somehow, the loan runs for 100 years until 2112. No idea how they got a lender or bondholder to agree to those terms.
Iowa has a lot of alums in Hollywood?
OOoooh, right. Iowa has a fantastic graduate writing program so that actually makes sense.
I’m surprised. I always thought… crap, either Oregon State or Washington State had a ton of debt along with Cal. But maybe not?
At least we can now say with a straight face that UVA is in the same league as Stanford!
Funny, but the Big East already stretches to Omaha, so it’s not like they are geographically confined like they were in the formative years of the conference.
WSU has a ton of debt. I think OSU is on better footing.
Academically we are swiftly moving to the middle of the pack in the ACC.
I think we’re giving up on football. Only reason to vote for the expansion is that we don’t really care anymore.
With all due respect, I sincerely doubt that. We can disagree with the rationale, but there certainly is a rationale, I don’t think our AD has decided to just punt on football.
Not sure how to act on the SEC or B1G in light of the exit fee and GoR. None of the ACC can leave like Pac or B12.
It always delivers!
Interesting. I was just chatting with someone, not particularly an ACC fan, who thought this was a great long-term move for the ACC. His point was the ACC’s problem was it, sure it has a bunch of great schools and tradition, but few of its schools are in major media markets. This adds Dallas and the SF Bay area, which are probably the 3rd and 4th largest media markets the ACC is in, making it possibly better than I’d been thinking for adding affiliate income. He think Cal is a basket-case, but a fighting-to-stay-relevant Stanford and a finally in a major conference and dying to flex its muscles SMU could be powerful in time.
I dunno if I entirely agree, but it was nice to hear a neutral yet optimistic point of view.
Also, interesting that the ACC now has 18 schools, as does the B1G. The SEC and B12 both have 16 schools (or, this is where everyone will be in a year or so). Starting to standardize.
Edit - He might also have been trying to cheer me up, it now occurs to me. Even so, I’ll take it.
A cool visit to SMU could include the Bush Presidential Center, Dallas Museum of Art and In N Out Burger all within 10 minutes of the campus.
And a Cowboys and Rangers game only 30 minutes away.
Meeting half way for that first ACC basketball tournament in the Des Moines Civic Center is gonna be sweet!
18 teams also opens up some intriguing scheduling possibilities for basketball.
Let’s ditch the 20 game ACC schedule and push for 18 again.
Play 2 teams twice and everyone else once? Ok that equals 19 which is better than 20.
Play 3 teams twice and everyone else once? That equals 20 again.
Divide into 9 teams each in East and West and play each division foe twice and pick 2 random teams from the other side each year to make 18? rotating that every 4 years to get to all of them?
of course makes more sense to:
Divide into 9 teams each in East and West and play each division foe twice and pick 4 random teams from the other side each year to make 20? rotating that every 2 years to get to all of them?
West (Non Traditional Funk):
Cal, Stanford, SMU, Louisville, Notre Dame, Pitt, BC, Syracuse, Va Tech
East (Traditional):
UVA, UNC, Duke, Wake Forest, NC State, Clemson, Ga Tech, FSU, Miami
There solved it.
p.s. Could also do this:
Play 4 teams twice in your division one year and the other 4 the next. = 12 games in your division and play 6 of the 9 on the other side every year = 18 games total.