Still think we could have ACC baseball championship in Omaha.
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and there is the 6th floor museum on Dealey Plaza for the morose amoung us.
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The no votes basically announced their departure as soon as it becomes feasible. I donāt think anyone is surprised, including the ACC leadership. Adding Stanford, Cal, and SMU is about trying to preserve the conference after the defections occur. Weāll see if the ACC can continue without at least UNC, FSU, and Clemson, and possibly others.
Iām not as sanguine about U.Va.'s ability to join one of the Big Two down the line as others appear to be, mainly because our craptacular football program will be a significant problem. I get that neither conference has a Virginia member, but the future is all about streaming revenues, which are geographically neutral.
In addition, the fact that Ryan was leading the ACC Board charge to add these three schools is a red flag to me. It suggests he supports going down with the ACC ship out of a sense of loyalty even if itās not in U.Va.'s interest to do so.
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From the Yahoo article linked above: āIn a key component to reduce travel, the 15 original ACC members will only be required to send each one of their sports to the Bay Area once every two years. Under another component, eastern members and the two new western members would meet in Dallas to conduct competition in Olympic sports. SMUās location provides a sensible central hub. Itās unclear if these components have been formalized.ā
https://twitter.com/brett_mcmurphy/status/1697630661186658416?s=46
Footage of FSU outside of SEC headquarters earlier today:
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I agree. I think UVA has decided it would rather be in a third rate conference which will eventually lead to impact on all sports.
Everyone acts like the GoR is some God-like immovable barrier but every obstacle appears invincible until someone tries to breach it. Suicide pacts donāt hold up well in court. By adding these three schools, UVA just made its own case more difficult to prove. When Clemson, FSU, Miami, UNCheat decide to go, the ACC will become the new MAC.
So we lose home games in non-revenue sports.
Man, Iām feeling sorry for Cal at this point.
Yeah, I figure that part of the agreement means that a team goes to the Bay for a weekend and plays both schools every other year.
Iāve never bought the travel considerations objections of the existing members since it would at most extended 1 existing road trip per year by a few hours (and now itās every other year), but the travel is hell for the Bay schools and still not great for SMU (but probably not much worse than theyāre used to in the AAC).
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Disagree here G - we are one of the programs that, without the additional revenues that come with the three new schools, will lose money with an unequal distribution of the revenues. This keeps us stable, with some additional $ to play with as we attempt to grow into a consistent winning program in football. And Iād rather play any of Stanford, Cal and SMU in basketball than BC or even Syracuse.
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As someone whoās only seen one live UVA basketball game in 15 years (granted it was the natty in Minneapolis), Iād happily welcome the ACC to town.
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Iām in Texas and excited for the opportunity to see them in Dallas. Went to the NIT game last March.
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God bless your soul lol.
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Nothing says strengthening the conference like adding the bones the Big 12 just finished picking through. So insane.
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AAC statement. Oregon State and Washington State probably to Mountain West then?
WARNING: Derogatory language
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Has there been another major conference expansion when basically no fans of the current league teams have positive feelings about it? Itās gotta be 95% negative in this case, with only people local to the new schools are kinda cool with it. . Even the ones who understand and sympathize with the situation donāt like it. And casuals are like wtf just happened.
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Maybe when the BIG added Rutgers and Maryland? I donāt think any of the existing BIG fanbases were excited by that, although they understood the rationale at the time (DC and NYC media markets). It also wasnāt nearly as dumb as this is, so Iām guessing reactions were somewhat more muted/maybe there were some more positive ones.
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Yeah thatās the only thing somewhat comparableā¦but this is next level.
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I have no desire to be in the SEC. It is not the paying players part, doesnāt matter to me, everyone else is making money. It is all the other stuff that goes on at SEC schools. UNC can take all the fake classes they want in that conference.
Donāt want the B1G either. No thanks, in some ways that would be even worse.
FSU and Clemson are deluding themselves on getting out in the near future. It isnāt just buying out of the GOR, it is also likely they wouldnāt get full shares. Why would the SEC pay a full share for a second school in two states?
As for the B1G Clemson and FSU are a lot closer to Oregon and Washington from a revenue generating standpoint than the LA schools. Partial shares would be likely. I am not a financial genius, but it looks to me like it would not be feasible at all for them to get out until around the time the Big XII deal is up if using what Texas and Oklahoma paid to get out early as a guide. Early 2030s.
We are never going to compete in football. I have no desire to be Rutgers or Vandy in a super conference. My hope would be that after Clemson, UNC, and FSU leave the ACC can use the buyout money to help try to leverage schools like Arizona, etc to join to go with Cal and Stanford. Sort of an academic/basketball/olympic sports conference with second tier football with maybe a playoff entrant or two a year. That would be the best of options I donāt like for me.
I would prefer that to the NFL style conferences. But I have no doubt a spot is there if UVA wants it in a few years. Nothing about expanding impacts that. This at least keeps other options open whether it is an academics focused third best conference, or a one percent long shot like ND joining. It was the right call.
I will say I am surprised how vehemently the Hokies are against it. Some truly delusional stuff on Hokie boards.
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This is the part that has me so down on this addition. Maybe the ACC needed to do something, but weāre literally the last hyena at the carcass taking away scraps. Itās hard to be excited by that.
I was all in on the ACC doing something bold and crazy like merging with almost the entire remaining PAC after they lost UCLA and USC to create a true bi-coastal conference with tons of content in both time zones and presence in most massive media markets (and we could have still tossed in SMU). Maybe thereās a reason that was untenable, but that would have been a real effort at staying in the game. Instead we let the BIG and BIG12 take everything of real value and then showed up to see what was left.
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