Me when we land Kon but have to watch him ball out against Cal and SMU
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When those three schools leave, the ACC is no longer a top tier conference. So yes, weāve covered ourselves numbers wise if that happens and the ACC would continue to exist without having to renegotiate itās current TV deal until it expires (which is a meaningful development), but we wouldnāt be in the same league as the SEC and BIG and weād slide down well below B12. Weād still be alive as a conference, but nobody is paying a bunch of money for a conference whose biggest football draws would then be what, the desiccated husks of Miami and VT? I guess weād be hoping Pitt or NCST football would save us? I mean, yeesh.
Itās been said a billion times, but if UNC, FSU, and Clemson finally figure out how to bolt, I sincerely hope we are able to hitch a ride. I would have been somewhat emotionally attached to the old ACC, but Iām not going to be too torn up about leaving this new Frankenstein conference.
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Whoās staying up late to watch Stanford vs Hawaii?
A-C-C A-C-C!!!
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According to that Yahoo article, the ACC was negotiating with UA, ASU, Utah, Cal and Stanford, but on the day that the B1G took UW and UO, the Big XII pressured UA, ASU and Utah for an answer and they accepted the Big XII bids that day. For those school, the Big XII made more geographic and cultural sense. I donāt think they wouldāve joined the ACC unless it was far more money than the Big XII (and it wasnāt).
I think there was mutual disinterest among Cal/Stanford and the Big XII in a partnership. Call it academic snobbery.
Any school would ditch the ACC in a heartbeat if they got the UO/UW offer, so no way weād get either of them.
I donāt think we got the scraps. I think every PAC school ended up with the conference that they best fit.
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Watching Stanford vs Hawaiiā¦ yup they are absolutely ACC material.
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Oregon State and Washington State should unironically play every year for the PAC Championship trophy from now on. Just make it a yearly rivalry trophy like the Commonwealth Cup or Old Oaken Bucket or whatever.
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They could rebrand as the PAC2
Soooooā¦.who still wants to join the SEC?
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Um. Everyone?
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Iāll bite. Iād rather join the BIG10 than the SEC but whatever. Our football team can get $moked every week, as long as the TV checks get ca$hed and keep the rest of the athletic department flush with cash, I donāt care.
If the football team is going to be mediocre to bad, we might as well get huge sacks of cash for it.
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This is exactly how I feel. Iām cool being the new Vanderbilt or Northwestern if it means we can throw heaps more money at basketball and all of our non-rev programs.
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Weāre going to get slammed in football in whatever conference we play because UVA is the absolute champion in sabotaging itās own football program. So thatās an irrelevant factor, unless you want to go CAA, where we might be competitive, though I think weād find ways to blow that too.
The rest of our athletic department is pretty good but the ACC is a dead man walking. The revenue from SEC or B1G would be good for all our sports that are competitive so Iād still jump in a heartbeat.
Staying in the ACC is a vote for becoming OSU and WSU one day down the line. I wish it werenāt true because Iām an old ACC diehard but itās true.
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Iām curious to see if the Dallas pod system actually materializes for non-rev sports. Otherwise itās difficult to justify preferring anything other than the SEC if we care about our non-rev athletes. B1G option is dead in my eyes with the 4 west coast teams
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Yeah when it comes to this debate you can safely divide UVA fans into two camps: those who think UVA needs to stay in the ACC to have a realistic shot at being competitive in football again, and those whoāve given up on football regardless of conference affiliation. And there are a lot of the latter.
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There are sub groups in those two factions. I was for the expansion, but I hope we are in the highest levels of competition when the dust settles. I just tend to be a little skeptical of our chances to get into the Big 10 or SEC. I definitely want the ACC to try and stay ahead of the Big 12.
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Count me as the latter, BUT if there is a chance we can climb back up the competitive ladder it is in the BIG
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Weāre not going to be competitive in football on a continual basis. Itās just not going to happen. UVA has decided theyāre not going to make the same allowances its peers have made in order to be successful in the primary revenue sport. Thatās fine. Thatās a choice and I respect that. But the whole pretense that we can do that AND be successful in football is delusional.
This has been my position for a very long time. No magic coach is coming to UVA to save its football program. We are who we are. At least we could be smart about it and not schedule like we think weāre Alabama. Thatās an unforced error.
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I mean, we literally just qualified for a bowl game in 4 of the last 6 seasons. We can at least play semi-competitive football. Weāve almost certainly got a hard cap, in part because of the reasons you state, but we arenāt doomed to have a losing record at all times.
That said, as Iāve noted above, I am comfortable getting destroyed in the BIG or SEC because itās worth it to me to stay in the top tier of our other sports. Iām just pushing back slightly against the conclusion that we cannot be at all competitive. Weāll never be challenging for the higher levels of the sport, but .500 or above seasons on a semi-regular basis isnāt insane to aspire to even given our limitations.
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It isnāt unreasonable to expect us to have a better football team than JMU consistently.
But we do not.
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