⛹️‍♂️ Thijs De Ridder Official Thread

Yeah - over there they get a lot of expenses paid too.

Sure, it is of course important to keep in mind the audience. But I also think it’s even more important to keep in mind the actual words he said.

Let’s see what he says about this subject to a UVA audience when he gets interviewed by one of our beat reporters. I certainly think this would be a fair question.

Until someone tells me something like “the Flemish actually use the term a ‘few months’ to mean, ‘but not before the conclusion of the next NCAA basketball tournament’,” I’m gonna keep this open in my mind as a possibility, albeit slim.

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There’s probably clawback provisions if he leaves before the end of the season.

You think there are clawback provisions on the pre-house money? Even though it had to be paid out before July 1? I think that’s very possible, and I suspect there are many contracts that have something like that in it. But in my opinion, well, I guess I shouldn’t say technically. But yeah…

I’m probably being over cautious here. My basic point is we all think an installment deal would have to go through NIL Go / Deloitte. I’m not sure I see much daylight between that and a deal with clawback provisions that essentially turn it into an installment deal (deal A: you get 100k for showing up, 200k for first game, etc. vs deal B: you get 1 million, and we claw back 1 million if you never show up, 900k if you never play a game, etc. To me, it’s kinda the same deal, unless you’re structuring around something, in this case the July 1 deadline)

Well…short answer is that I’d expect some sort of clawback provision in a contract with an advance payment for future performance. Whether the school would choose to go to court over it and deal with the potential PR fallout, I have no idea.

Long answer involves tax law, employment law, NIL structuring, anti-pay for play rules, accounting standards and other minutiae that @tonyburnertt claims to like, but would lead me to writing walls of text that everyone hates, ignores and scrolls right on by.

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Do employment lawyers love the challenge of navigating this “employee who we can’t call an employee” status or do they long for schools to dispense with the fig leaf because it would be less annoying for them?

I guess the current arrangement probably comes with more billable hours.

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But for the House deadline, I would expect that too. Given the House deadline, I kinda change my view. But as you point out, it depends on an institution’s risk tolerance for testing House.

And with that, I’ve now written enough text on this myself, for now.

Texas Tech seems to be openly flaunting non-compliance with House in football so we will find out sooner rather than later!

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I wonder if Nick Kalinowski (double hoo) is who tipped off the staff about De Ridder? Maybe we can get Nick on the payroll to help us with international scouting.

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I think UVA’s involvement with De Ridder originated with Griff’s Houston contacts. De Ridder spent time down there with a trainer at one of these pre-draft camps, then that was where he was on his recent US trip. Griff definitely talks to Nick and people who know the overseas scene though, would bet Nick gave him some feedback on De Ridder if nothing else.

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Google Translate provided me with this:

De Ridder doesn’t hide the fact that he dreams of the NBA . “And in the NCAA, you’re seen much more than in Europe. I also did two NBA workouts this summer, with the Houston Rockets and the Boston Celtics. They both said they’d like to see me in the NCAA so they could compare me to other talents.”

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It will be interesting to see if he is going to be a team player. Lots of his comments suggest he sees this mostly (all?) as an opportunity to show the NBA what he’s got. How’s this different from the other guys? Well, they are all thinking it, but he says it out right with not much anything else said about what he may experience with winning, teammates, education (ha ha, just kidding) etc. It may be early in the process for him to think about anything else. Hopefully, he does care about some of those other things, because he can be an important part in raising this team a level or two.

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This is a really good point but maybe he just never considered US college route before NIL got so real etc. he said early on that he is all in during games (to winning?) and bringing energy etc

As you know being in CVille and playing for UVa changes you some… or a lot

Shit I didnt say Go Hoos til half way through my second year…

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He was pretty low usage and played his role solidly for his euro team.

Mostly as a stretch 4 who could cut and attack a closeout

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And playing with your buds can change your attitude a lot. Once he gets to know his teammates, his true attitude can change vs what he tells some reporter who asks him a question that he really hasn’t thought about much.

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When is de Ridder expected to be in Cville?

No information on arrival time here, but nice to have more official confirmation. Also pronunciation of “Tess” confirmed

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Wikipedia and google level research plus Haney home spun hypothesis: we all know most Germans and Dutch pronounce his name Tice (like ice, but with a “t”). German has a long “i” sound. English also has a long “i” sound. But neither Castilian (Spanish) nor Basque** have long “i” sounds. So I suspect he “changed” it to Tess so it could be pronounced decently in Spain at both home and away games, by coaches, and by media.

Someone should ask him how his mother pronounces his name. Until I hear that, I’ll assume he says Tess to non-German speakers because in his experience that’s what will involve the least amount of butchery.

** a pre-indo-European language isolate, spoken in Bilbao

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