Based on this boardās reaction, it was after that, when they released a harmless YouTube video about welcoming new first years.
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And Iāll add, in a number of SEC states, baseball is just as important as basketball, and weāve been one of the top 10 programs of the last decade there too.
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The same culture and thought process behind that video is the same culture and thought process that gets us killed by VT every yeah while they storm our field
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I generally agree with this and I think you could take it even further beyond the football program and apply it to the entire athletic department and the school. Growing up in Virginia as many of us have, there is one thing that resonates about UVA and itās the image of the polished academic minded upper crust. Sure as fans and a program the school has leaned into all the quirky things and the image. But I think somewhere over the last 25-30 years it went from being kitschy to becoming problematic.
The schools need to have a polished image is oppressive at times, and the determination to stick to the traditions associated with that image can be annoying at the least and problematic at the worst.
Traditions are something that are passed down and you have to carry. Legacies are written and created. Go out and write you legacy.
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Not mid-Atlantic, but Oregon, Ole Miss and Kansas have comparable student populations and 1 other P4/5 school in the state.
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Kansas bot a bad comp actually. Oregon has a super boaster so not the same but I get it.
Ole Miss is pretty good too now that I think about it. Their relevancy is fairly recent with the arrival of Kiffin save a few one off yrs.
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Yeah, Iād say Kansas. Also similar in that theyāre the flagship school, yet their instate rival has been significantly better the last 25 years.
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Great point even down to the basketball dominance and football disappointment.
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Interesting looks like Scott Stadium is attempting to step up itās food game. Guess the higher ups do listen to LRA.
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Partly why I loved Darion Atkins going off to the media before the Michigan State game.
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Big difference is a plan. Kansas has invested $400M in football upgradesā¦ 5x our recent project. Football doesnāt stop, itās an ongoing arms race 24/7. New ops center for us is a great upgrade but if weāre fatigued after finishing that off, patting ourselves on the back for a few years is gonna bite us very quickly
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And Kansas brings in more TV dollars than we do. One of the biggest difference between us and all other programs is that we sit in a shit conference that pays out pennies compared to the SEC, Big 10 and even the Big 12. Until we leave the ACC itās all moot because weāre playing in the minor leagues
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My mother in law is an exec at Aramark. If you think Iām insufferable here with my complaints, you should see me at family holidaysā¦
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Kansas comp isnāt bad. I think their brand is better than ours athletically and not near as good academically, but we also have far more favorable geography for recruiting. I have said for a while that Lance Leipold is my ideal coach here, it would be a hell of a hire if we could go after him if/when Elliott doesnāt work out.
Ole Miss is interesting but again playing on a different field academically. Iāve always thought we had a similar plight to Georgia Tech where we were the more academically inclined school in a relatively talent rich state and forced to play little brother in football to the other one, but Georgia Tech has far better recruiting geography and their big brother is quite a bit bigger, so not quite the same. Northwestern and Vanderbilt are interesting comps as well, but private schools donāt get the same recruiting bumps we should as a flagship state school and get to operate a little differently in admissions and funding.
Kentucky and Leipold-era Kansas (so far) are sort of the ideal model for me. 6-6 with occasional breakthrough seasons when the roster and schedule align. I sort of felt like we had this with Bronco though!
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Where do you see the Big 12 with more TV revenue than the ACC? Last I saw, the ACC distributed more per school (by just a little bit).
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This has big 12 by a little bit but not as big as I remember for sure. No reason we canāt be Kansas
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Howās Maryland doing?
Yeah I think one hugely frustrating part for me as a football fan is that we seemingly had a coach that had stabilized things to the standard that many fans hope for: regular bowl appearances with the potential for a breakthrough season if everything lines up. Then he seemingly left out of nowhere and weāre right back to hoping to not be totally irrelevant. Not trying to relitigate Bronco leaving but going through two separate ground up rebuilds in less than ten years really made me not care about football all that much.
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I think that the way Bronco left wound up hurting the program more than just the fact that he left. If he had departed like most coaches do, his successor ā whoever it was ā would have had an easier time.
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I think the combo of that timing, which Jackie from 247 specifically harped on how that would affect his 23 and 24 classes based on being behind, along with the tragedy and how he handled that on a personal level, regardless of the football sideā¦ Iām really pulling for TE to have success and my single fan perspective is to have a pretty long leash (even if things like special teams, in game play calling, and other nits are screaming to be picked)
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