šŸ€ UVa Men's Basketball - January 2024

ā€œRipā€ is just shorthand for a back screen, which is what the shooter is doing here.

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UConn does that action a bunch too in their offense. Hurley has a ton of different sets, apparently over 100 or something like that and they run them really well.

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I think all this also highlights how limited we are in terms of experimenting offensively when a lot of this action requires capable bigmen who can set good screens and pass well and until recently neither Buchanan nor Minor were deemed playable for heavy minutes.

Maybe yesterday was a step in the right direction with Buchahan’s run. And @Hoohoohoo has valid points about Buchanan being lost a lot but he also shows glimpses like the nice assist to the Dunn dunk

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Yeah was gonna mention that a large part of why UConn’s offense worked as well as it did last year is because both Sanogo and Clingan are wide as hell and really good screeners. Not to mention that they were also major threats to finish at the rim when rolling off of those ball screens.

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Thank you for Fresh for asking and @UVApride7 for answering. I saw the same thing here recently and meant to ask. My niece works for a federal agency, and now you need a handbook to have a conversation with her. Everything is an acronym. Let’s not do that to basketball.

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But do you think the SEC is going to approve the BTC ETF?

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The worst thing about this acronym problem in the Federal Government, no difference between Civilian and Defense, is that two people from different government organizations cannot understand each other when they talk to each other because every organization uses different acronyms.

For example…

OPR
OER
FITREP
SCOD

… all are pretty much the same thing except different military services… they are all the acronyms for the performance reports officers get… ugh.

For you Army folks… the first time an Army E5 asked me if I had read the FRAGO, I burst out laughing because all I could think of was Fraggle Rock.

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I thought that was a pasta sauce

I’ve been meaning to put together an advanced stats acronym cheat sheet for the board; could probably also do one for arcane Xs and Os terminology.

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Don’t reinvent the wheel… just build off of this one…

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I’ve only heard of a few of these more arcane ones… I’ve heard of VORP

There’s a lot of room for debate. RAPTOR, PIPM, RPM, and BPM (VORP) are the most popular modern all-in-ones. RAPTOR has a nice database going back to '14. PIPM got yanked from the public domain since the creator got hired by the Wizards but you can see some top players lists via his old tweets. ESPN hosts RPM by individual years and now goes back to '03. BPM has been completely re-invented since 2017 and basketball reference makes it available in various forms.

The best metric partly depends on the use case, as metrics where on/off plays a bigger role need significantly larger sample sizes to stabilize. The pure on/off luck adjusted RAPM is likely as good as the above stats over a 5 year period but is inferior with a single season or less. BPM has no on/off, RAPTOR and PIPM are mixed, and last I heard RPM was mixed with a ratio that depends on sample size.

Others include LEBRON which is new, largely untested, and has an uphill battle in catching on. Ben Taylor has a different type of BPM that is pay to access and is probably legit but rarely referred to. PT-PM was promising but was never popular and isn’t updated any more. As for the older ones, PER and Drtg are never worth using. WS is decent but only worth using on old seasons that the modern all-in-ones can’t cover.

Arguably the best ā€œadvanced statsā€ aren’t all-in-ones but a wide range of more specific stats that help answer questions other than overall impact.

Reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/nbadiscussion/comments/lekihk/what_are_the_best_advanced_metrics_available/

That’s good. Though I have worries about the person who needs ā€œREBā€ spelled out for them.

Oh, and here’s a good encyclopedia of play terminology: The Basketball Action Dictionary. 21 | by The Basketball Action Dictionary | The Basketball Action Dictionary | Medium

They even have the MIG in there, which our guys have used to describe the low man with help responsibility in defending the pick and roll.

Exactly. Was commenting on that with Hav last night

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If you do this, could you organize it by / pair it with an explainer on the main metrics sites, saying what each one offers to the lay fan?

I realize that’s a lot, so feel free to say no. I was just thinking about this the other day after seeing a demo on CBB analytics.

Edit: could even be a blog post on LRA :eyes::eyes:

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Some fun stats this morning (Torvik, removing pre-season) …

From start of season to exam break:

Overall efficiency: 11th
Offensive rebounding: 281st
Defensive rebounding 298th

From exam break to now:

Overall efficiency: 200th
Offensive rebounding: 184th
Defensive rebounding 93rd

Is rebounding ruined our season? Discuss.

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Less out of position and less disruptive??

I would say it’s the primary reason we have struggled as we have. We have been killed on the boards this year. Offensive rebounding is horrible

Solution to the road woes: bring your home pillow. Brilliant
https://x.com/uvamenshoops/status/1743364391062601738?s=46&t=Y9ZJTUudJiFOC0Ajwlmckw

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Definitely underrated when traveling

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Are there people that don’t do that?

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