šŸ€ UVa Men's Basketball March 2024

What is the biggest shortcoming this year is a tricky question - there are almost too many options. How about the biggest disappointment? For me thatā€™s easier, and itā€™s the lack of improvement across almost all of those shortcomings:
-in-game offense
-in-game defense
-player development
-grit
-roster usage
-etc

We have had some bright spots this year, without a doubt. But on the whole, this has been a disheartening season that also indicates bigger storm clouds in the horizon for the program. I havenā€™t felt this down about the Hoos in the TB era.

If this was a video game, it would be really tempting to hit reset and play the season over again with a markedly different approach.

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On the one hand Iā€™m like ā€œonly Tony could squeeze 21 wins out of this group,ā€ yet Iā€™m getting progressively more tired of ā€œsqueezingā€ out a low ceiling at the cost of future gains. Next year may necessitate a full rebuild which just means Tony will double down and play Dante Harris 30 minutes a game. Iā€™m holding out hope heā€™s too competitive and realizes he needs better talent but recent track record doesnā€™t inspire confidence

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My most heterodox view on this team, and itā€™s getting tougher to defend for sure, is that the talent on this team is very good! Tonys not squeezing anything! Heā€™s fumbling a lateral.

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Oh man I disagree. I watch a lot of college hoops and am constantly thinking ā€œour guys could never do thatā€. I think Tony has hurt us in some of that but I also feel the current ceiling of Gertrude coming off ACL injury is not super high right now, bond who is a 4 in a 3ā€™s body, and so on are just limited.

I also may never have been more off on someone as I was with Rohde. I predicted double figures scoring and a future all ACC team. Heā€™s a player that I feel actually might have talent but our system has sucked the life out of him.

So who knows maybe the system is so constricting that itā€™s not highlighting the actual amount of talent we have. Am I taking myself into agreeing with Haney? Time to log off smh :joy:

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Tonyā€™s offensive system creates a ton of shot pressure on players. Some cannot adapt to that philosophy and cannot shoot to their ability within the confines of that system. I have no doubt gifted high school scorers look at that (with the help of our competition) and wonder if their game can translate well into that low possession scheme.

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I think players are afraid to take shots that arenā€™t wide open. A good shot isnā€™t a wide open shot; a good shot is an in rhythm shot or a shot that comes instinctively, not forced wise

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Zooming in on just this issue: wasnā€™t this obvious by the moment he stepped on grounds? (I have always assumed that staff assumed heā€™d grow a bit or become a bigger body guy, but hasnā€™t). If he needed to learn to become more of a true wing offensively, maybe he should not have had his ass nailed to the pine for 2 years.

And by the way, thatā€™s just offensively. Heā€™s exactly the wing piece we need in our defense, but instead we have to watch Rohde stumble across court on close outsā€¦ I donā€™t get it.

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I am fearful that Tony also sees it as ā€œwe just need continuityā€.

  1. This group just isnā€™t that good high ceiling wise
  2. What continuity? Groves Minor and possibly Reece Dunn are all gone. That 4 of our top 7 rotation. McKneely will be our ā€œveteranā€ even though I have no idea if he can be a leader or confident with how one dimensional and shook he has been at times. Next season is in fact the best time to reset everything and land some actual transfer portal talent; a team with no continuity but talent will annihilate a team that relies on continuity from this squad, even with individual player development. We just need Bliss and Buchanan/Robinson to develop further.

You have a Bliss McKneely Gertrude Buchanan Robinson Cofie MaybeBond core. You can bring in veteran talent that is actually talented to help develop that along.

Either literal unicorns in Mid Major ball (Trey Murphy/What I think Tucker Anderson is) or Power 6 level kids we have previous relationships with

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100%. I think thatā€™s why we saw such a tight lineup earlier in the season. Tony thought that was the fastest path to continuity.

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Point 2 is why Iā€™m terrified about next season. Feel like itā€™s being taken for granted that Tony will grind out another 20 win season because he always does, but I donā€™t remember a returning roster with so little continuity and talent

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Bond has felt, to me, like a huge mistake since the beginning. Like a replacement level ACC 4 would have been nice to have this season to back up RD or allow him to slide down to the 3.

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The recruitments vs ā€œhandling once theyā€™re hereā€ of Bond and Gertrude are one of many ā€œwhy doesnā€™t our GM get along with our coach, especially since itā€™s the same person?ā€ questions.

Tony the GM fell in love with three high upside, athletic, long dudes a few summers ago. Tony the coach only wants play one of them (RD).

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Agreed. Exactly. If IMAC and Dunn were providing more gravity do Taine/Rhode/Groves get more open looks? IMO they do.

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You couldā€™ve have just watched him last night lol. It was aggressive Dunn driving on his man in space one on one and getting blocked or missing layups. What Cuts has been arguing for, basically ā€¦

To be sure, I want all of our guys except Dante to be assertive on offense. Itā€™s more important than most other things right now. But Dunnā€™s been trying and his main/only success is back door cuts and offensive put backs. Sometimes on a contested fadeaway in the post, which you donā€™t want to live on. Thatā€™s just where he is.

Dunn is a subpar offensive player who is sub sub par because of his confidence issues. I think he could grow but not sure what his ceiling is.

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if only we could have foreseen Tony prioritizing experience and not playing first years many minutes ā€¦ especially ones that have potential but are raw.

Same story as it ever was. Itā€™s not some weird illogical dissonance. Itā€™s a cogent theory on team building and winning, whether you agree with the logic or not is a different story

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We donā€™t coach or GM the team. Tony does. Heā€™s the one I want to better foresee his own likes and dislikes (however stupid I think they might be)

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ā€œBestā€ case is a 2025-2026 core of ā€¦

iMac, Rohde - senior
Blake, Bond, Eli - junior
Cofie, Robinson, Bliss, Mallory - sophomore

Sprinkle in a few portal acquisitions or talented first years. Right now that doesnā€™t feel amazing but also thatā€™s with only a sense of how most of these guys are doing as first and second years. Potential is there if managed well.

Next year tho ā€¦ eh.

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My question is do we have players that cannot do certain things or do we have players that feel constrained and do not feel like they are permitted to play with freedom. I think we have a lot of athletes in the backcourt and at the four with Dunn. They should be playing more free on offense. I Mac is a great shooter but doesnā€™t take enough shots. Dunn looks like he is second guessing everything he does on offense. We have lineups that we could push the ball some. Just really frustrating because I think we have some players on this team.

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On last thing from me, for now: I saw it and thought it was great! For a while we asked RD to be assertive offensively and then for a while we didnā€™t, and this team probably needed him to do that to reach its ceiling.

Feel like youā€™re trying to make a ā€œsee? We tried it and it failedā€ point, but for me, itā€™s more of a what coulda been if one of our goals had been to INSTILL confidence in RD all season, kinda thingā€¦

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IMac has gone into a shell in moments, itā€™s frustrating. When heā€™s hunting his shot heā€™s good. You can tell pretty early on by the way heā€™s carrying his body what type of game it will be from him.

Dunn being abysmal on offense is the biggest WTAF moment for this roster. Dunn having zero offensive ability (outside a few tip ins and dunks) kills pretty much the entire thing. If Dunn was a consistent threat to at least put the ball on the floor and make an offensive basketball play the entire equation changes. But he canā€™t do that. He also fumbles a good number of passesā€”two last night actually, that would have been easy dunks if he just catches them. Heā€™s been great as the defenseā€™s free safety and at times excels on crashing the boards. But other than that, weā€™ve all been saying the same thing all season. His shot looks considerably worse than his freshman year.

Rohde has sucked. Dante is pretty much unplayable. Unless Danteā€™s ankle healing completely fixes his grotesque shooting form, weā€™re out of luck there. Rohde and Harris moving on would be better for everyone. But that ainā€™t happening and we all know it.

Iā€™m at a crossroads. I genuinely love TB. Heā€™s been the best thing to happen to UVA basketball in literal decades. Heā€™s put out teams that exceeded expectations, dominated the league, and won a NC. I respect the hell out of him and how heā€™s done it. But times have changed and I think heā€™s his own worst enemy. I listened to the postgame, he was quite clearly embarrassed, pissed off, and annoyed. He even got a little testy with someone who was making some noise while he was answering a question. Heā€™s not a fool, heā€™s not an idiot, but he is stubbornā€”clearly to a fault. I want TB glory days back. Hopefully we can get back there. But if not, Iā€™m thankful for what he did bring. Weā€™ve had some incredible players, teams, and moments. Hereā€™s to us getting back right.

Go Hoos!

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