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The way I understand it, conference tournaments have been devalued by the NCAA committee. Those games don’t carry equal weight like they used to…for better or worse. So you’re probably in or out after the final regular season game these days.

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That’s what people say, but we have so few Q1 opportunities that it might not be true for us. Let’s say we head in at 12-8 in regular season, and lost both Duke and UNC. Winning a neutral against either one in DC could be enough to send us to Dayton.

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If the ACCT run included a win over either Dook or UNC I think it would make a difference. Anyone else and probably not.

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I think it’s mostly just more convenient for the committee. They have their field set…or a couple scenarios based on conference tournament outcomes by probably Friday. Like I remember they said VT would have been left out if they had lost the ACCT championship game a few years ago, shocked people.

But yeah I kind of agree with @haney. If there’s a close bubble team still playing…that could also be a bracket scenario. UVA beats UNC in the semis, they’re in and another team is out.

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I just think the committee is lazy (or has gotten lazy over the years). They lock in the bracket before tournaments and have contingencies for any surprise auto bids.

They want to go into Thursday or Friday controlling for 2 or 3 scenarios before Sundays announcement.

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I actually didn’t. 6-4 with a big time win sounded better than 6-4 without one… but I now realize that 6-4 with a big time win also means a worse loss is in there….

Resume stuff is definitely not in my wheelhouse. I prefer the time we won every game and just chalked it us up as a 1 or 2 seed lol.

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I think if we beat Duke AND uNC we are a lock (at 13-7).

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The heck with 5-5 or 6-4. I don’t want to sneak into the field. Let’s go 8-2 and eliminate any doubt.

Is that overly aggressive? I guess tomorrow’s game will give us a clearer idea. Our 2019-2020 team won 11 of its last 12, and that’s the team that seems most comparable to this one: good defense, grinding offense, took a while to find its identity.

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Gotcha. That why I threw in the ā€œdouble bye, one win then lose to Duke or Carolinaā€ scenario as the baseline for my prediction. That felt status quo to me. Doesn’t move the needle in either direction.

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Agree I said earlier in the week. The Hoos had to win the series for the week with 2 out of 3 if they want to stay alive.

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Duh. I read ā€œwithā€ but you said ā€œwithoutā€.
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Could really use Buchanan’s 5 fouls. PJ Hall and Schieff put the louisville front court in major foul trouble.

I think we could see Minor on Shieff and Dunn on Hall to start? Groves shooting with confidence would be super dope/change a lot.

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Game by game predictions: 6-4
@ Clemson- L
Miami- W
@ FSU- L
Pitt- W
Wake- W
@ VT- L
UNC- W
@ BC- W
@ Duke- L
GT- W

I think that would get us in.

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Okay gotcha. You had successfully convinced me that I was dumb :joy:

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Also wonder if an adjustment we could make is finally seeing the 4 guard line up at times.

Taine or Rohde at the 4 spot. Chauncy Wiggins is solely a spot up shooter (he sucks in everything else, so glad we didn’t recruit him). Jack Clark is 6’10 but 200 lbs. A light breeze could guard him lol.

Hall and Schieff are their two real bruisers/big guys.

And just switch everything, Don’t help off Girard.

More realistically I think this is a Leon game and I hope he’s ready to step up to the moment. Whether it be at the 3 or 4 spot.

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Could also be a Gertrude game: Outside Girard jacking, none of their guards are too dynamic. And his rebounding/jumping could compensate for the lack of depth inside.

Worst thing that happened was Dante’s block on Markus Burton LOL. Cause now they think he’s a plus defender instead of the reality Burton penetrated pretty easily and we are lucky he didn’t kick out.

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In fairness, Burton got past Beekman pretty easily a number of times, too – particularly at the end of the game. He’s a good player. Overall, I think Dante did a pretty good job guarding him.

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I agree they mostly lock it in by Friday but I think it’s a principle thing not a laziness thing. The sport has made a concerted effort for all 30+ games to count the same. If you don’t have it more or less locked in before conference tournaments it’s hard for the human recency bias not to creep in and value conference tournament games more heavily than regular season games

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Not lost on me at all (he was fierce.) Just that Im afraid they maybe have this reputation of what Dante is that doesn’t line up as much with the on court production. He’s okay but not like vital if that makes sense.

In the context of Clemson where they might cook that match up a lot if we defer to it a lot. He could be a pest on Girard. Just that we lose a lot offensively in a game where we might already lose a lot defensively because lack of girth inside.

Groves and McKneely hot from 3 makes everything irrelevant though.

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Appears we’re 5.5 point underdogs tomorrow. Saw someone reference that as a line, that’s also where Haslametrics and Torvik have it pegged.

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