Spend less money on buyouts and more money on the roster may not work every year, but it was sure the smart move this past offseason.
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Itās a risky game that hasnāt proven to work long term. Indiana has taken this approach and itās paid off well for them. Texas Tech is attempting to make it work. Ole Miss did it last season and it kinda flopped when they missed the playoffs.
It also depends on the circumstances, a lot of P4 schools listed above have high expectations and see themselves in or near the playoff picture. They donāt have the patience to wait things out and would rather scrap and start fresh.
Last, part of it comes down to where does the money come from? When the big bucks are coming in from one or a small number of donors then they carry an inordinate amount of power and if they donāt jive with a coach they can tank the whole thing.
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I think GT coach will be hot commodity. I donāt see Manny getting a bigtime whistle again.
Key is a Georgia Tech guy though.
Feel like it would have to be an elite program (and elite money) that draws him out - not sure heās proven enough to be on that radar. Would think heās more in line for a pay raise (although he got one last year) though.
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Key aināt leaving GT unless he retires or is fired. That dude fucking cares about his school. Watch any of his post game pressers. If itās after a loss, it legitimately looks like heās dealing with a death in the family. If he wins, bro looks like a little kid on christmas. Seriously, very rare to see a high profile coach wear their heart on their sleeve like that (but I personally love it). But yea, the man isnāt going anywhere
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Agree with the Key support here. He aināt leaving the ATL. The Yellow Jackets have a new AD and are pumping tons of money into their program and they will throw the house at him to keep him home. Heās got GT up to 7th in the poll and the ACC is soft enough he could maintain them at or near the top of the conference for a while.
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I donāt think LSU is a top 3 job. Probably somewhere right behind that in the 2nd tier. Awesome job with potential to win a championship for sure though.
Iād probably rank Ohio State, Alabama, Georgia and Texas at the top. Behind them maybe Michigan, USC, Oregon, Florida, LSU in some order. Then the Penn State, Tennessee, Notre Dame, FSU, Clemson, Miami, Auburn, TAMU, Oklahoma level. These are probably the jobs with playoff at minimum and national championship contention almost every year as the expectation.
Am I forgetting anyone? I think Iād put the likes of Ole Miss, Washington, other Big Ten schools, half the Big 12, SMU, VT, UNC, NC State, Pitt, Louisville, Missouri, Arkansas, etcā¦in the tier or 2 or 3 below those.
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Interesting take, of course this is all subjective, so I donāt feel too bad about picking at it to disagree and add LSU to that top tier. Their last 3 coaches have won national titles, and they are routinely in the big game hunt with their season often times coming down to a game against Bama. Thereās tons of money available, a loyal fanbase who arenāt as insane as Bama. Great facilities great recruiting base.
That next tier gets real muddy, I wouldnāt consider USC or Michigan an upper level position but they both have the ability to springboard into one with the right mix of talent and coaching. I think Florida is quickly dropping in status and needs to nail this hire if they want to remain on that level. Auburn is like a poor mans Miami, working on 3 straight loosing seasons and outside of the Cam Newton year its tough to take them seriously.
I think PSU is about to drop off that line completely, this weekend once again proved he Rhule is not even on Franklinās level. Franklin had that program humming about as well as could be expected he just lost the wrong games at the wrong time. The Nitney Lions have been living off the ghost of the 1987 championship for far too long.
Clemson was up there but theyāre sliding, OU was up there but has fallen. Miami is a good brand but Iām not sure theyāve done enough to reach that level yet the same can be said for TAMU. Same note too for FSU as well. The Jimbo championship seems more like a fluke than anything.
I donāt know where to place ND second tier seems good enough
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Hard disagree. A ham sandwich can win a natty in Baton Rouge just by stacking the recruiing classes and playing OC/QB roulette. HARD DISAGREE.
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You need a raspy voice like youāve been yelling all day tooā¦ a la Ed Orgeron
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LSU with a good coach is a scary prospect. Think about the guys who have won titles there. 1 of them stands out as a coaching genius.
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Despite the resources, I just have a hard time placing Texas as a top program because they havenāt won a natty since Vince Young.
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I mean if you want to add LSU and call it a 5 school top tier, I wonāt argue. Itās not like these are objective ratings based on some metrics. Itās just my subjective opinion. And it mostly comes down to timing and a coachās personal preferences anyway.
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When people talk SEC raiding ACC for any theoretical future expansion, is GT ever a consideration? If not, what would be primary reasons?
edit: maybe directed to @BDragon as he seems to know ATL a bit. Seems like would be a good market?
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From everything Iāve seen itās about overlapping footprints of current SEC membersā¦ so in this case, Georgia wants nothing to do with Georgia Tech in the SEC.
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I think itās more about the SEC getting a foothold in new states at this point. I mean sure theyād take a major major brand like fsu but GT doesnt move the needle in the same way for them adding the states of North Carolina or Virginia would (or any other new state really)
Also yea @jazznutUVA is right from a current members standpointā¦. A&M was livid over Texas joining but the brand power paired with also adding Oklahoma outweighed that one.
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Key would have been very high on the list at Alabama if DeBoer didnāt turn it around, and I think heād take the call. GT grad but Birmingham native.
Ohio State and LSU are the only teams in truly talent rich states where they are the only Power conference team in the state. On a top X recruits/power schools in your state basis Ohio State and LSU will always have one of the biggest advantages in the sport., I donāt think they can be any lower than like 4 for that reason.
Georgia for most of the recent past has had a similar thing with their state, but Georgia Tech is still technically there and with them building Iād wonder if that eats into Georgia a bit going forward.
Alabama can and has been down in recent memory, its not a given there. Georgia, Ohio State, and LSU are all my top tier just because of talent access with reasonably little competition in proximity.
Texas probably has the highest ceiling in the sport, but so much competition in the state and an administration/donor base that canāt get out of their own way, so I donāt have them quite as high as the others, but itās hard to not have them in that top tier. It probably will be by the time they are replacing Sark.
Iād quibble with USC but agree with the rest.. USC may not have the juice anymore now that there are two NFL teams in LA again and you arenāt the football team of LA anymore.
Iād put Oklahoma in the tier above as well. They basically have never been down for an extended period of time, its a pretty insane run for them honestly. Agreed on everyone else though.
I think theyāre still there for now, but yeah hate firing Franklin and I think they are far closer to Nebraska than Ohio State at this point.
Tier 1: Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, Texas
Tier 1b: Alabama, Florida, Michigan
Tier 2: The remaining top level B1G/SEC teams + FSU, Miami, Notre Dame, and Clemson
Tier 3: The middle level B1G/SEC teams (could make a case for those ACC teams here as well) + SMU
The rest after this probably move a bit too much year to year to really set to a tier.
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What does Oregon need to be a 1b tier?
edit: they need historical success, championships. Haha. But thinking in terms of resources they would be ascending whereas the Penn States and Nebraskas are going the other direction
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Sorry this is off topic but the ACC tiebreakers are so annoying
1. Combined head-to-head win percentage among the tied teams if all tied teams are common opponents
2. If all the tied teams are not common opponents, the tied team that defeated each of the other tied teams. If all the tied teams are not common opponents, no tied team defeated each of the other tied teams, but a tied team lost to each of the other tied teams, such team shall be eliminated and removed from the tie
3. Win percentage versus all common opponents
4. Win percentage versus common opponents based upon their order of finish (overall conference win percentage, with ties broken) and proceeding through other common opponents based upon their order of finish
5. Combined win percentage of conference opponents
So, if UVA and Louisville tied at 7-1, UVA would advance due to head to head.
If UVA and Miami tied at 7-1, UVA would advance due to UL as a common opponent (assuming the team we lose to isnāt VT as Miami doesnāt play the other remaining teams)
However - if UVA, Louisville, AND Miami tied at 7-1 (again, assuming the loss isnāt VT since thatās a common opponent) it would be decided by total record of conference opponents since no team beat or lost to all of the other teams tied.
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They were on my list for people that could drop below us with losses, but I truly only see 3 teams theyād let us hop without total meltdowns by thanksgiving, that still doesnāt quite get us to top 10!
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