Dallin is a good and solid player. But he needs to be a threat to shoot. If he doesnāt shoot when he is wide open, it makes us worse. Be a threat, which he can be.
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@DFresh11 remembers thisā¦. John Crotty was a DOG and he relished in the opportunity to crush Chris Corchiani from NC State. Crotty and our staff figured out that Corchiani would penetrate with no intention of scoring/shooting and he would try to kick it out to guys named Rodney Monroe and Tom Gugliotta. They were ridiculously good. Crot killed that guy a lot because he wasnāt a threat to shoot. If your point guard wonāt shoot, you become less effective. They were really good, but he wasnāt that effective against Crot because we knew he wanted to pass. They were still great but less effective because he wouldnāt to shoot the ball.
I think Hall has a small physical issue that affects his jump shooting. His FT form looks great, but I think heās got some physical problem affecting him when he goes up - hence a lot of head faking. Iām probably waaaay off base, but makes sense to me as he has been a non factor offensively since he has the 8/8 game.
Lewis, when he doesnāt rush his shot, is great - problem is he seems to get sped up. Same with Chance - they have more time to get the shot off than they think. Chance is settling in and I think his % will go way up.
On the question of fouls - we foul a lot because we get beat a lot and have to reach or try and make up for bad defense. We make a lot of stupid fouls. Refs see that. I think we get fouled a lot as well, but we have a tendency to whine about just every call or look at the ref in disbelief. Hard to get the benefit of the doubt then.
So we get called for ticky tack fouls such as 2 hands on the offensive player, Chance and Tillis trying to steal the ball when being backed down etc. I donāt have a problem with those calls, but when Thijs is clobbered in the lane, Chance is thrown to the grown, Elijahās leg is swept/tripped, Malik is hip checked, Johann is tripped up by the big Turk ( should have been a double foul) I think we have the right to ask about not getting those *worse calls.
Getting called for hand checking is fine and we do it plenty, but our guys seemed to get called a lot for just sticking their chests into guys while in good guarding position. Lots of weak calls.
Oh - I donāt disagree - just trying to explain the discrepancy in the refs seeming inconsistency. Duke doesnāt āfoulā, therefore the refs donāt call fouls on Duke. TBās teams didnāt foul and I think stuff like that subtly biases the whistleblowers.
Now those are good points! We canāt get away with ānot foulingā if our fouls are so blatant. I am 100% with you there! I mentioned it earlier in the thread as did so many others- it is a bit jarring to see some of the fouls that are guys are making- how many 4 point plays does this team have on the year? More than in TBās entire 15 years here lol!
On Malikās offensive foul - the opponent clearly placed 2 hands on him and kept them there ā¦ easy defensive foul that caused the push off ā¦. Not called correctly of courseā¦ thatās just one example of what I was taught and what we taught 1st and 2 nd year High school Frosh and JV officials - do not penalize the wrong playerā¦and if you wait until the offensive foul to blow the whistle - still easi to verbalize - ā2 hands on before the push offā as you go to the table to report.
Lee Cassel is not where he is because heās a good play caller.. I will leave it at that - just find the dudes with big arms and shirts a size too small and you will find terrible officials ā¦ literally in my experience that was about 90% the case with those dudes ā¦ one dude in the NBA is an exception who I reffed with - but he is big because he was a D1 Power forward and understands the gameā¦
Corchiani and Hurley were considered the premier point guards in the conference, and Crotty rarely got acclaim outside of Virginia fans, who knew how good he was. But my memory is that he invariably outplayed Corchiani and Hurley in the head-to-head. I checked my memory against a few random box scores. In Crottyās senior year, he scored 16 points and had 7 assists in a victory over Duke while Hurley scored 5 points (on 1-for-8 shooting) and had eight turnovers. In a victory over NC State that year, Crotty had 21 points and 14 assists. I canāt find all the box scores, so maybe Iām just remembering the good moments. But I know that Crotty always seemed to approach those matchups like he wanted to prove something. And he usuallly did.
A badge of honor I carried was that I was known as a ref visiting coaches wanted on their gamesā¦ I had heard a coach talk at an officiating camp once when he said - try be known as an official who visiting coaches would want on their gamesā¦
For example if a coach got a bit out of hand with his demeanor or arguing ā¦ I made sure the next few possessions his team had to 100% earn any whistle from me - no way I would ever want a coach to think bad behavior earned him an unjust rewardā¦. But I can attest - very very few refs abided by that - human nature is to appease.
I couldnāt care less what goofball Groover and bad eyes Cassellās reputations are - they are terrible - the out of bounds play (Chance) is literally JV stuff on positioning and where your eyes should beā¦
Hereās an actual quote from a college ref assignor : would I rather have a C+ playcaller who is an A relationship with coaches guy or an A playcaller who is a C+ relationship guy? He had the audacity to say he can teach the C+ play caller how to call plays better but couldnāt teach EQ to the other guyā¦
Here was my pithy comeback under my breathā¦.
Youāre an idiot - hire the A+ play caller and he wonāt have anything to debate about with coachesā¦
By the way - I reffed for 22 years and instructed other refs for 20ā¦. You canāt teach a bad play caller to be excellent - you might get a D to a B- but most of the actual best play callers start out pretty quickly as Bās or better. And in my post game discussions when I was there to observe Officials, even if calls were missed, I could tell by their responses about certain plays that they knew they missed them and so actually the accuracy was there even before they were skilled enough to put it all into place on the court, especially for first second or year Officials.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate Thijsā significantly better free throw shooting these past 3 games or so? I donāt have the numbers and percentages in front of me right this moment, but earlier in the season, it used to be an adventure every time he went to the line and it seemed like I never expected him to make more than one (if any)
Last night he went straight SGA free throw merchant, and the previous couple games he didnāt miss much either IIRC. Noticeably improved.
Maybe he can get GrĆ¼nloh on board with whatever he did to improve this area of his gameā¦
Me and Hav saw it up close and I can say it was very very rare that Crot got bettered by any PG head to head in the country. Specifically in the ACC he took it very seriously and normally dominated the other guy.
So from an ND fan perspectiveā¦ they thought UVa was more aggressive helping us with foul calls at the end.
I think refs sometimes will fall into an expectation pattern and react to big variations. For example, Pitt and back in the day Michigan State would be overly aggressive from the start with their defense, especially the secondary. UVA was more aggressive than ND on offense as we kept shooting 3s in the first half while UVA did more barreling in for shots so their aggressive actions seemed normalized towards the end of game. Thatās why I believe UVA got beneficial quick whistles on tieups. The refs āexpectedā UVA to tieup the ballā¦thus the quick whistle. We seemed more passive, particularly our in- bounds plays. Get the darn ball in play.