🏀 Virginia at Wake Forest, Sat, 13 Jan, 1400, ESPN2

[zh00s]

@Hoosthechamp

moves without the ball. It might help him

Fwiw all our guys except Reece and Rohde need to watch some tape on moving without the ball. But especially iMac, Groves and Dunn these last 4-5 games.

[dave92]

We just aren’t very gooooood

[AnonymooseHoo]

Is it their decisions how they move without the ball? I assume if they were just being lazy and not moving, a coach would bark at them? that is what is confusing. It seems like the play half the time is to just stand there

[AnonymooseHoo]

And this sucks

https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/1745989680691077592

[Hooandtrue]

You looking for a similar culture but more modernized offense and approach?

TJ Otzelberger or Bob Richey at Furman.

Shaka Smart? (UVA money vs Marquette money/he does have connections to central VA).

Dusty May.

Niko Medved

Kim English (just landed a 5 star too. And doing solid despite losing his best players to injury).

The Indiana St coach/Belmont coach (one of them ends up at Indiana is my guess).

Micah Shewsberry (that’s where we would see how much money UVA really has with donors and connections and what not. Apparently there are some donors who are ready to go but Tony hasn’t given the hard stamp of approval yet(?)).

[Serum114]

And they had Detlef Schrempf

[Hooandtrue]

@haney

Not ready to give up on Elijah’s shot so soon, especially off an injury. But yeah, once Fresh started talking him up, and I saw him on City Rocks, my first reaction was “well we’d waste most of what he can do great!” Hah ha. Pretty sure that reaction is still in digital ink on here somewhere…

And I think I mentioned at the time concerns of fit. His dunks are super exciting too though. But you need to be a pg at that height and have a 3pt shooting touch.

[Serum114]

Ah, that Ro weight loss shot commercial, where the woman says she’s “not sure how a little tiny prick has changed her life” is exactly what I needed after that loss.

[DubstotheThird]

That performance after a whole week of practice and a full week to game plan… sigh…

[uva123]

Is Ryan Odom proven enough?

[dave92]

I’d like to see our shot chart from this game. It was long 2’s all day long

[Hooandtrue]

@uva123

Is Ryan Odom proven enough?

He was someone I typed out but then deleted. Meh first year at VCU. But it is his first season. UMBC, UTah state solid runs.

Would be hilarious and story book like if Ryan Odom was Tony’s successor.

[tlgoudy]

I think all of our guys need to realize they haven’t earned a thing and start playing hard! We get beat to loose balls the whole game. Wake had 3 guys going after them while we had 1. Gonna have get a little more blue collar if we want to start competing with average teams.

[haney]

I thin k he could be a PG. Didn’t get his shot in HS with Tahaad, and now he’s way too raw

He’s got some decent skills there, just lacks the judgment / refinement.

Anyone see that Monty Williams thing and playing IVey at PG? Basically - he was like, oh, never thought of that…

Anyway, the initial take I referenced:

Elijah Gertrude EYBL Watch Party

Okay, I better go do something before I log off at work, but I can’t really say what I’m thinking w/r/t Gertrude and playing style, but I will say, if he comes here, we should run more, and we probably won’t, and then I will get frustrated.

[Hooandtrue]

@USSoccer13 I saw you typing. Let it out good or bad. (unless it’s Kim English slander which I wont allow LOL)

@tlgoudy

I think all of our guys need to realize they haven’t earned a thing and start playing hard! We get beat to loose balls the whole game. Wake had 3 guys going after them while we had 1. Gonna have get a little more blue collar if we want to start competing with average teams.

Im thankful for more rational posts like this to help break up my uber doom and gloom burn everything down posts.

[USSoccer13]

Started immediately after the horn went off. I’m just so pissed. Literally only positive thing I can take away is Minor. He’s active and rebounds. Needs to quit getting caught too far under the basket but he’s gonna be ok. Dunn….man I should keep my thoughts to myself lol and all those damn mid-range jumpers. I’ll just have another.

[Hoos5004]

I am just so demoralized. I really have lost confidence in the staff to navigate the new landscape. I do think UVa provides a golden opportunity for a staff to come in and take some advantage of NIL.

The other thing is I just don’t know how we are this bad with two probable NBA draft picks and about 8 top 100 recruits. There is some disconnect between the current game and the staff. I am quickly losing confidence in this staff putting us in a consistent position to win at a high level.

[haney]

It’s posted above, and about as bad as you’d guess. Maybe from @lodger96 ?

[Hooz123]

People are focusing too much on the “new landscape” - there is something there, but it’s more about Tony running his most talented players out of town and awful roster management.

Again, RS Traudt…after BARELY even convincing him to come…Tony seriously lost touch with reality…talk about reading the room. Don’t tell me he volunteered, that’s bs. Miss Kadin much? Was it worth benching him Tony? Dude acts like he’s running an NFL team.

It’s more about Tony’s roster management and his inability to recruit which goes back to 2018. Portal and NIL was just a nail in the coffin.

[dave92]

Thanks, I skipped most of the thread. And it actually looks even worse than I thought