🏀 Virginia vs Hampton, Tuesday, 11 November 2025, 2100, ACCN

[haney]

Thanks! (Now I need to bookmark this)

[lodger96]

OBPM has always rewarded those who finish as opposed to those who set up the finishers. Also rewards iso ball.

[zh00s]

the Isaiah Wilkins stat

[AdventiveQuasar]

I think Torvik shows BPM 1.0 rather than 2.0. 2.0 fixed the quirk where Russell Westbrook’s MVP season was rated as the best in NBA box score history by a lot because there was an interaction term between rebounds and assists.

[crazysportsdude]

Yea no one metric is perfect for basketball. I usually really like Evan Miya’s BPR which is essentially an advanced version of on off stats, but that shows Thomas and Hall as our two best players right now. I assume there is some data carry over from last year baked in there because that has not showed up in any other metric.

[DavetheWave]

Hey why respond to mine? I was neither the first one to bring up the term uncaged or the name McKoy in this thread….lol.

[DavetheWave]

Wonder if people think Mallory’s plus minus would be as good as Halls in the exact same minutes and whether Halls would be anywhere near as good as Mallory?

I am pretty confident Mallory starting would be no worse in those minutes

I have a sneaking suspicion even Gertrude playing the same role and minutes as Hall by end of December would be just as good - neither one great on offense but Gertrude probably way better vs Acc guards

[dave92]

@zh00s

Carrere is a NASTY passer. He made two dimes that led to buckets. Great vision.

I have to admit while watching him last night I was thinking early Rohde. Great passing and vision, not doing a lot else. The difference is we won’t rely on Martin for starter minutes until he’s doing more than that.

[Ahooiam1]

@AdventiveQuasar

I’m ready to eat some crow on Sam Lewis. Wasn’t sure how he’d translate, but he looks great in an off-ball role hunting catch-and-shoot 3s and getting some blow-by drives when he sees his man selling out to take away the 3. He’s probably not going to sit at 85% eFG for the year (lol) but the role fit has been good. Looks a little cleaner on defense too; he’s not a havoc creator but his attention to detail has been getting better.

Yes, his performance yesterday was great to see. He looked a lot more than a catch and shoot guy. I am not sure why Odom wasn’t giving him much time in the first two games, but maybe it was a message to step it up because he looked much more aggressive. Of course it also helps when the ball keeps going in the basket.

[Mr.E.Recruit]

Reminds me of Mutumbo but with a jumper

[NorVaHoo]

Lewis reminds me of Tre Murphy a little bit.

[Cuts_from_The_Corner]

I’m very curious as to why so many seem to think Dallin’s defense has been so bad. He’s been able to contest most looks despite not being as quick and makes very few mistakes.

He doesn’t make many splash plays but he also doesn’t hurt us often.

Both Malik and Jacari have been worse on that end so far in terms of making mistakes that lead to easy buckets for our opponent both in their missed assignments and their missteps on angles/moves.

[Hoohoohoo]

Hey I’m with you!

I think it started with that guy live commenting from Vandy, then showed up some at the Villanova game where he was a bit slow and people decided to hyperfixate on it.

Thought Jacari was the worst last night. Malik has been consistently bad, but has more active hands.

[haney]

@Cuts_from_The_Corner

He’s been able to contest most looks despite not being as quick and makes very few mistakes.

I suspect folks are mostly commenting on the tools. It’s hard to speak to effectiveness absent a fuller analysis. Plus a healthy dose of fearing how he’ll fare against the better PGs like Mikel Brown, et al.

Well there aren’t man et als comparable to Brown but you get the point

[Cuts_from_The_Corner]

Hm. I’ll have a Thomas (and Ugo) focus in this piece but I’m going to have to write about Hall’s defense soon, I think.

[Hooandtrue]

Hampton play Milwaukee close and Milwaukee is giving Indiana a fight early which means we are 1 million points better than Indiana

[DavetheWave]

With Hall - he basically got destroyed by Duke Miles - obviously hyper motivated to beat the Hoos that day… and then Miles doing really well so far probably plays into it.

And then vs Villanova he got driven past relatively easily by their guards with no screen - simply one on one - a few times… so that’s the question - can he actually defend P5 point guards?

And then by the numbers he was the worst Hoo defender in the Hampton game as well as last on team over the 3 games so far.

For me too - why does he lead the team in minutes? Like why?

[Hooandtrue]

@DavetheWave

For me too - why does he lead the team in minutes? Like why?

Because we are a disjointed team of players who have never played together and him being on the floor as a floor general, even if limited, absolutely helps the team. That and his assist to turnover ratio

[AnonymooseHoo]

“Why does the extremely steady handed point guard with, by far, the most power conference experience on the team lead the team in minutes”

[NakedIcarus]

@Hooandtrue

@DavetheWave

For me too - why does he lead the team in minutes? Like why?

Because we are a disjointed team of players who have never played together and him being on the floor as a floor general, even if limited, absolutely helps the team. That and his assist to turnover ratio

This is the right answer. Odom knew what Hall was when he recruited him: a good experienced distributor with size who could provide steady leadership for a team of mercenaries. Hall’s weaknesses in ball handling, shooting, athleticism, and defense were well known. But he’s here for his assist-to-turnover ratio. That’s it.

And Hall seems to be getting it. At least in the Hampton game, he played the floor general role, only shot when he was wide open or the shot clock was expiring, and used his size to be a pest defensively.