Which numbers?
Eye test he looked solid defensively against Hampton.
Offensively, heās a good distributor. Seems like he passes out of the break better than any of our guards. Has the veteran presence to slow down the game and limited scoring but seems to have a knack in timing those makes for when we need it.
I love Chance, but when we play NC State and theyāre running that press, I want my vet in there to start the game.
Did you actually watch what Hall did when Hampton actually pressed? Retreat dribble into a trap in the corner into a timeout.
Give me Chance all day as primary handler against the press ā¦
Hall? Yes generally solid ā¦kinda like the other D Hall at UVA his sophomore or junior year.
Hopefully Gertrude gets better offensively ā¦ kinda scary right now that EG at 33% FG shooting is better than both starting guards so farā¦ Thomas at 29.6% and Hall at 28.6%.
Also kinda weird Hall has as many FTA as Odom.
Because weāre +89 in his 81:31 on the court and +2 in the 38:29 heās been off the court?
Next highest on the team is +69 (GrĆ¼nloh in 70:51 and De Ridder in 79:01). Next highest guard is Chance (+53 in 66:57).
Yeah that press caught the entire team off guard. Did you watch what the other four players on offense did? They didnāt recognize it and left him out there to dry.
Was happy he had the presence to take the timeout.
Yes better than Kihei in same situation!! 
Sorry ptsd from that play still hauntsā¦.
Odom is pouring developmental minutes into Chance. And Chance already looks like a veteran out there. But Hall has been in pressure cooker games against elite competition and won. And this team is constructed to surround Hall with scoring options and let him make good decisions. We donāt need hero ball from the point guard.
Iām delighted with everything weāve seen from Chance so far, but Hall is the point guard. Hall doesnāt handle pressure well, he canāt defend quick guards, he isnāt much of a shooterā¦ but heās the point guard for a reason. If youāre expecting Hall to become an elite scoring guard or a lockdown perimeter defender, youāre going to be disappointed. But if you want someone to calmly dissect a defense and find the best scoring option, heās the one you want today.
Wasnāt he sick vs. Duke Miles?
I get and am not dismissing the concerns that when the competition raises he could be a point of attack - but that really hasnāt proven out during the regular season so far and also wasnāt something that generally happened at BYU (more than most others on that team, anyway). Thomas is the one who has played very poorly on the defensive end, not Hall. Heās getting beaten off the bounce regularly and losing his man/blowing his assignment regularly. Jacari has also far more often been the answer to āwait, whose man was that?ā than Dallin, as well.
We really havenāt seen any of the competition in regular season play take advantage of him effectively yet - the full court pressure stuff is by design and heās not the only one getting beaten down the court (all of Thomas, Chance, Jacari and even Eli have been chasing after that pressure) - but they help defensively and respond to it and sometimes that also generates mistakes from the offense.
I think that, generally, players like Thomas and Hall can do well in this defensive system despite not being the quickest guys because of the design - but Iād much rather Thomas clean things up on that end than Hall so far.
To you point though, I do think Chance will be the better ball handler.
Would want to ease him in a little, but heās probably already proven he doesnāt need much time to adjust.
eFG is a better comparison stat for shooting efficiency because of properly weighting 3s. Nudges Hall (39.3) and Thomas (37.0) up.
Jacari is a great vertical athlete (has a top-10 offensive rebounding rate for guys 6ā5ā and under) but that hasnāt translated to the defensive side.
Malikās is a little more concerning because itās both awareness and quickness.
Jacari I think has an easier road to getting there - the mistakes arenāt as common and itās rarely a completely lost assignment; sometimes itās just getting caught on a screen he didnāt see coming or over-anticipating and making some missteps on drives. Heās had some nice defensive flashes and I think heāll settle in there - but it is interesting to me the Hall perception considering Jacari has conceded a lot more on the defensive side as well.
It makes a little more sense if itās scrimmage based - but a lot of the dialogue Iāve seen is describing it as an ongoing issue like currentlyā¦ which I havenāt seen on tape.
I was wondering who was going to take the annual fan scapegoat baton- guess itās Hall. lol. Heās been solid. Given the number of good options on this team, having an unselfish steady presence is a plus.
We should probably just name it the Kihei Clark Scapegoat award. Previous winners include Andrew Rohde, BVP, and the mover blocker system (winner in perpetuity)
Eh, its early. Chance probably isnāt going to shoot 60+% from the field for the entire season, right? If we get to Thanksgiving and these numbers are still in the same ballpark, then Iāll get concerned/excited.
Actually, if Chance shoots 75% from 3 on decent volume for the entire season I wonder if an NBA squad would actually roll the dice on him.
Chanceās aggressiveness and self-confidence as a freshman reminds me of Kihei. Theyāre different players, obviously, but Kihei never seemed overwhelmed by the moment (it took not only skill but huge cojones to make that pass against Purdue) and Chance doesnāt either. Chance is going to make rookie mistakes, so expect a fair share of turnovers and defensive lapses. But I predict heāll be getting the majority of minutes at point guard by the end of the season. Thatās not a knock on Hall. Thatās just an appreciation of what Chance can bring.
This is the only one I disagree with. It might just be semantics, but Hall isnāt a ābadā outside shooter. Heās been an astoundingly stable āperfectly fineā for his entire college career (his college seasons have gone 35.2%, 35.9%, and 35.3% in 3FG%). Heās not a āgoodā outside shooter, but heās probably quite competitive among various teamsā 4th or 5th offensive options.
I havenāt said anything about Malik or Jacari on Dā¦ never said they were good on that side eitherā¦ will be a coaching challenge to mix and match our 2 plus guard defenders with our 3 minus ones..
Probably best defensive 5 - Chance Eli OO Johann and Lewis
I agree. But I think in general itās a bad sign if your point guard is your last or next-to-last offensive option.
I think you just have players you gravitate toward. Fluid rim protectors who can shoot the 3 and bouncy, athletic guards. It is what it is, but thatās the trend.
Eh, I dunno. You can have perfectly effective team offenses where the PG is a floor general and low-ranking option. Just look at BYU in recent years. Hallās freshman year was the only one where thereās even an argument whether or not he was their last option on offense, and it was by far their worst offensive season of the years he was there. They were very good to elite his Soph and Junior years.
I was just going through UVA teams over the last decade, and surprisingly few had a better 4th offensive option than Hallās career numbers.
Edit - Would we be a better team with a better offensive PG than Hall? Holding everything else constant, sure. But having someone his offensive caliber at PG isnāt necessarily a problem, as BYU showed. Andā¦ they also showed that if you DO get the opportunity to improve on him, then great.
Or a great sign.