Have thought this unironically. Whatās the dudes record vs non Hokies though
22-31 overall at ODU, so 19-27.
Rahne was believed to be on the chopping block before this season. Heās been thoroughly mediocre there past beating VT.
If beating the Hokies is the pre-rec for a coach thereās lots of other options that actually beat other schools as well.
āSpecial Advisor to the Head Coachā it is then.
Stanford QB looked decent against BC. Had some nice throws and stayed in the pocket.
Meh he was okay
13/22 186 and 1 td. Iāll take that from an opposing QB all day
On the upside that Td brought him to a 1/3 TD to INT ratio on the season. And a qbr of 20.
He didnāt win Stanford that game he just didnāt throw it away for the first time all year.
Edit: now Iām going deeper on him heās a 5th yr player with a 15/13 td to into ratio. A 58% career completion percentage. Why Stanford went out of their way to sign him as a 5th yr when a statue would have sufficed I donāt know
Stanfordās projected starter went to BYU and is starting there after the BYU QB left for Tulane in lieu of getting suspended for having pre-marital sex.
Weāve managed to figure out how to accept upper class transfers, but thatās still a big issue at Stanford. Plus the whole former asshole coach getting fired and them having an interim coach for this season issue.
Rule of thumbā¦avoid hiring from the James Franklin coaching tree?
Rahne - hot seat at ODU
Pry - fired from VT
Moorhead - fired from Mississippi State
I donāt credit Franklin for Manny Diaz. I must be missing some guys, that canāt be his entire tree.
Damn I forgot about that domino chain that was started by the BYU.
I feel like Rahneās seat might be a bit cooler than it was a week ago.
Moorhead is a good coach and only spent one year with Franklin, heās in the Manny camp imo. His flame out at Miss St was mostly for academic scandal reasons that stemmed from a practice I have a hunch predated his arrival at the program. He got Lanningās Oregon offense headed in the right direction quick, frankly not sure why he took the Akron job. Heāll be back as an OC for a big time program sooner rather than later, maybe thatās just his lot in life.
But I think it is likely similar to Dabo where Franklin is a somewhat singular charismatic figure that players seem to gravitate to, and replicating their program success without whatever magic they have is very difficult. Franklin populates his staff with outsiders far more frequently though.
Daboās is roughā¦
- Venables (who I think is finally turning it around after releasing some control over the program with Nagy as GM and outsourcing the offense to Arbuckle/Mateer)
- Elliott, not starting the fight here but the record is the record (also maybe turning it around! notably NOT ceding control/philosophical ground unlike what Venables has done)
- Chad Morris, unmitigated disaster at Arkansas, 0-14(!) in the SEC (also ran a HS football program off the rails a bit from a really high point, thanks for Chandler though!)
- Jeff Scott, 4-26 at USF
- Napier, oof (Saban gets some of him too, he was kind of the first success story out of the Alabama Analyst reclamation program. Also notably with him he seems the closest to Daboās recruiting and charismatic chops- itās the Xs and Os and in game stuff doing him in)
Moorhead worked under Franklin for 2 seasons, but like Diaz he was a head coach before Penn State (at Fordham).
He had some sort of tie to Akron aside from being an assistant there earlier in his career. Maybe his wifeās family or something.
if not the Franklin tree, Iām not sure where you would put Moorhead. Maybe whoever was his head coach at Akron in the mid 2000s. Not really that important. Stop raining on my bash James Franklin parade ![]()
Ha donāt let me keep you from it, but a guy with 16 years of coaching experience and a former HC stint before he joined Franklinās staff feels hard to call a branch of his tree!
somewhere in the deep recesses of my brain, I associate the Mississippi State firing of Joe Moorhead with the image of a guy simulating a dog peeing in the end zone after a TD against Ole Miss and Moorhead responding to a question with the phrase āthey can kiss my Yankee assā. I donāt remember the academic scandal thing you mentioned.
10 players were suspended for 8 games for having tutors take tests for them, including a few defensive starters.
MSU actually won that Egg Bowl and got to 6-6! But then two players, one of them their starting QB, got in a fight that left the QB injured and unable to play in the bowl and they lost that.
The on field performance for Moorhead was actually fine, it was the general player behavior and program standards that were a disaster. He absolutely didnāt have control over the program which is bad, but he was a pretty solid coach if you only look at the football. 14-12 with 2 bowls is pretty solid at Miss St, especially playing those SEC West schedules at the time!
The season he got fired was the last Tua Alabama season, the Joe Burrow LSU season, and a good Auburn and aTm team in their division and he still went 6-6 with a win over their rival. Weād hire that!
Iām pretty sure Mississippi State was happier with Mike Leach (RIP) anyway.
And they should be! Talk about a coaching tree!
What is interesting to me ⦠once a top program loses itās singular head coach the program it usually slides significantly no matter the quality of the successor ⦠in no order, Tom Osborne, Fulmer, Frank Beamer, Meyer (UF), Carroll (USC), Harbaugh (Stanford) ⦠the list is very long and it applies to basketball as well. The counter is in some situations the decline had already occurred with the legend presiding over it (Paterno, George Welsh) and the successor was left holding the bag. Not sure if Dabo is really getting heat from his admin or if he is making it up to give himself and his team and āus against themā chip but Clemson should treat him like the crown jewels.
I think you can add Beamer in there to be honest.. He rode out on a couple 7-6ās and those first Fuente years were sort of dead cat bounces in a weak ACC we didnāt quite realize was weak yet.
Not sure that Stanford fits with the others. Harbaugh only won more than 8 games once in his 4 years. I know he inherited a bad program. Shaw averaged almost 11 wins a year for his first 6 years and won 9 in years 7 and 8 before the bottom fell out.