šŸˆ Virginia vs Stanford, Saturday, 20 September 2025, 1930, ACCN

Have thought this unironically. What’s the dudes record vs non Hokies though

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22-31 overall at ODU, so 19-27.

Rahne was believed to be on the chopping block before this season. He’s been thoroughly mediocre there past beating VT.

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If beating the Hokies is the pre-rec for a coach there’s lots of other options that actually beat other schools as well.

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ā€œSpecial Advisor to the Head Coachā€ it is then.

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Stanford QB looked decent against BC. Had some nice throws and stayed in the pocket.

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Meh he was okay
13/22 186 and 1 td. I’ll take that from an opposing QB all day

On the upside that Td brought him to a 1/3 TD to INT ratio on the season. And a qbr of 20.

He didn’t win Stanford that game he just didn’t throw it away for the first time all year.

Edit: now I’m going deeper on him he’s a 5th yr player with a 15/13 td to into ratio. A 58% career completion percentage. Why Stanford went out of their way to sign him as a 5th yr when a statue would have sufficed I don’t know

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Stanford’s projected starter went to BYU and is starting there after the BYU QB left for Tulane in lieu of getting suspended for having pre-marital sex.

We’ve managed to figure out how to accept upper class transfers, but that’s still a big issue at Stanford. Plus the whole former asshole coach getting fired and them having an interim coach for this season issue.

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Rule of thumb…avoid hiring from the James Franklin coaching tree?

Rahne - hot seat at ODU

Pry - fired from VT

Moorhead - fired from Mississippi State

I don’t credit Franklin for Manny Diaz. I must be missing some guys, that can’t be his entire tree.

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Damn I forgot about that domino chain that was started by the BYU.

I feel like Rahne’s seat might be a bit cooler than it was a week ago.

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Moorhead is a good coach and only spent one year with Franklin, he’s in the Manny camp imo. His flame out at Miss St was mostly for academic scandal reasons that stemmed from a practice I have a hunch predated his arrival at the program. He got Lanning’s Oregon offense headed in the right direction quick, frankly not sure why he took the Akron job. He’ll be back as an OC for a big time program sooner rather than later, maybe that’s just his lot in life.

But I think it is likely similar to Dabo where Franklin is a somewhat singular charismatic figure that players seem to gravitate to, and replicating their program success without whatever magic they have is very difficult. Franklin populates his staff with outsiders far more frequently though.

Dabo’s is rough…

  • Venables (who I think is finally turning it around after releasing some control over the program with Nagy as GM and outsourcing the offense to Arbuckle/Mateer)
  • Elliott, not starting the fight here but the record is the record (also maybe turning it around! notably NOT ceding control/philosophical ground unlike what Venables has done)
  • Chad Morris, unmitigated disaster at Arkansas, 0-14(!) in the SEC (also ran a HS football program off the rails a bit from a really high point, thanks for Chandler though!)
  • Jeff Scott, 4-26 at USF
  • Napier, oof (Saban gets some of him too, he was kind of the first success story out of the Alabama Analyst reclamation program. Also notably with him he seems the closest to Dabo’s recruiting and charismatic chops- it’s the Xs and Os and in game stuff doing him in)
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Moorhead worked under Franklin for 2 seasons, but like Diaz he was a head coach before Penn State (at Fordham).

He had some sort of tie to Akron aside from being an assistant there earlier in his career. Maybe his wife’s family or something.

if not the Franklin tree, I’m not sure where you would put Moorhead. Maybe whoever was his head coach at Akron in the mid 2000s. Not really that important. Stop raining on my bash James Franklin parade :slight_smile:

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Ha don’t let me keep you from it, but a guy with 16 years of coaching experience and a former HC stint before he joined Franklin’s staff feels hard to call a branch of his tree!

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somewhere in the deep recesses of my brain, I associate the Mississippi State firing of Joe Moorhead with the image of a guy simulating a dog peeing in the end zone after a TD against Ole Miss and Moorhead responding to a question with the phrase ā€œthey can kiss my Yankee assā€. I don’t remember the academic scandal thing you mentioned.

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10 players were suspended for 8 games for having tutors take tests for them, including a few defensive starters.

MSU actually won that Egg Bowl and got to 6-6! But then two players, one of them their starting QB, got in a fight that left the QB injured and unable to play in the bowl and they lost that.

The on field performance for Moorhead was actually fine, it was the general player behavior and program standards that were a disaster. He absolutely didn’t have control over the program which is bad, but he was a pretty solid coach if you only look at the football. 14-12 with 2 bowls is pretty solid at Miss St, especially playing those SEC West schedules at the time!

The season he got fired was the last Tua Alabama season, the Joe Burrow LSU season, and a good Auburn and aTm team in their division and he still went 6-6 with a win over their rival. We’d hire that!

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I’m pretty sure Mississippi State was happier with Mike Leach (RIP) anyway.

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And they should be! Talk about a coaching tree!

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What is interesting to me … once a top program loses it’s singular head coach the program it usually slides significantly no matter the quality of the successor … in no order, Tom Osborne, Fulmer, Frank Beamer, Meyer (UF), Carroll (USC), Harbaugh (Stanford) … the list is very long and it applies to basketball as well. The counter is in some situations the decline had already occurred with the legend presiding over it (Paterno, George Welsh) and the successor was left holding the bag. Not sure if Dabo is really getting heat from his admin or if he is making it up to give himself and his team and ā€œus against themā€ chip but Clemson should treat him like the crown jewels.

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I think you can add Beamer in there to be honest.. He rode out on a couple 7-6’s and those first Fuente years were sort of dead cat bounces in a weak ACC we didn’t quite realize was weak yet.

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Not sure that Stanford fits with the others. Harbaugh only won more than 8 games once in his 4 years. I know he inherited a bad program. Shaw averaged almost 11 wins a year for his first 6 years and won 9 in years 7 and 8 before the bottom fell out.

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