2022-23 Out of Conference (non-ACC / non-UVa)

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Back when I started following college bball, around the time we played Iowa in the 2013 NIT I saw this. A classic

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Why are coaches like this? This is message board level conspiracy:

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Ha. I thought his name was Nick the whole time. Cronin seems to try too hard to produce soundbites in my opinion

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Yikes. Sure doesn’t seem good for Brandon Miller, but probably hangs on what the law says about being an accessory. Seems like police aren’t pursuing charges, though.

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I know it won’t happen at Bama but is this the sort of situation where even if he doesn’t face criminal charges he should be suspended? Seems like even if it isn’t criminal it reflects poorly on the university and the program

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Nate Oats with a doozy of a boys-will-be-boys quote:

ā€œWe knew about that. Can’t control everything everybody does outside of practice. Nobody knew that was going to happen. College kids are out, Brandon hasn’t been in any type of trouble nor is he in any type of trouble in this case. Wrong spot at the wrong time,ā€ Oats said.

Yikes, times a million.

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ā€œWrong spot at the wrong time,ā€ says Nate Oats.

Yeah, might be worth mentioning that Miller didn’t accidentally stumble into the wrong spot. He went there knowing it was the wrong spot, and the only reason it was the wrong spot was that it was where he was giving a gun to someone who wanted to kill someone. It wasn’t the wrong spot until he turned it into one.

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Run and gun?

More like gun and run, amirite?

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in terms of providing the gun and then bouncing… not the actual crime… hmmmmmm

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Maybe I shouldn’t go down this road, but this quote from the deputy DA is a bit contradictory, isn’t it?

Asked by AL.com why Miller was not charged, Tuscaloosa chief deputy D.A. Paula Whitley said, ā€œThat’s not a question I can answer. There’s nothing we could charge him with,’’ according to the law, she said.

So … she can’t answer the question … but then the next sentence seems to answer the question… so, how do I read the first sentence?

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If the article starts with ā€œAsked why Alabama leading scorer Brandon Miller was not chargedā€¦ā€ it answers a lot of questions. But then the whole article becomes redundant.

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Wow. Providing a murder weapon to somebody is not generally something that gets shrugged off as ā€œWe can’t control what they do outside of practice.ā€

Even if Miller didn’t know what exactly was going to take place, what is the scenario where anything good was going to happen when a friend asks you to bring a gun somewhere public late at night? How is that not behavior you wouldn’t see as problematic among your players?

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Self defense, I guess? (meaning, the person asked for the weapon out of self defense).

But I don’t want to get too far into it on this b/c it starts get ideological in a hurry…

But yeah, I can’t imagine a scenario where Oats wouldn’t want to AT THE VERY LEAST let his guys sit a few games for being involved a situation that turned out like it did.

Oats probably hoping like hell the story doesn’t get deeper and clearer until mid-April.

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Let’s be honest: If Brandon Miller was a walk-on, he’d be suspended from the team. But he’s not. He’s a star. He could have been the person who actually shot and killed someone, and Nate Oats would desperately search for a loophole to keep him playing.

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Did anyone actually think this situation at Alabama was going to just fizzle out? Honestly, I’m shocked with the national coverage about this incident, or rather, the complete non-coverage by the national sports media.

Let’s just carry on and pretend like an Alabama player didn’t just murder someone (and the 99.9% chance that at least one other player is involved, if not a group). No matter the INSANE PLAYER-MURDER STORY, what seed is Alabama, Joe Lunardi? A freaking joke.

Unless you’re a complete idiot you saw something like this coming. It highlights the absurdity of sports journalism and how stupid it can be.

It also puts so much into perspective and the absurdity of major revenue sports in college athletics. Some schools, players are hustling to class and getting involved in the community, meanwhile, apparently at Alabama these ā€œStudentā€ athletes are running around with guns like they are in The Wire.

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Will be interesting to see to what extent ESPN et al cover this……

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It’s definitely the story of the afternoon on college hoops twitter, but we shall see what happens…

Come the big tourney, per NCAA rules, all locker rooms have to be open to the press… (I’m fairly certain)

I must be an idiot, because while I was aware of the incident, I didn’t predict that Brandon Miller was involved until the details just came out today. (To be fair, I’m an idiot for other reasons…)

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If I’m Nate Oats, I’m calling Urban Meyer to find out how he got this stuff swept under the rug every year.

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