I’d throw in va tech and michigan too.
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I am risk averse so I would take the PSU coach as the AD. Let Temple or some other high MM hit the jackpot on the Colgate or Drake coaches.
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What about Devries (Drake) to Wichita State?
Wichita State should look at the NW Missouri St coach whose won like 4 D2 national titles in 5 years.
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Does that guy coach @Hooandtrue’s favorite D2 guard?
Yeah.
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He’s also going to need to do better than a townhome when he brings a recruit over for a dinner on an official visit.
What if he’s got multiple officials going on at once? That townhome is going to get really crowded really fast.
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I mean a GT rowhome is going to be pretty sweet for sure, but it’s not going to be a large event venue. That said, there are plenty of gorgeous homes in that neighborhood if GT comes through with the salary.
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Ed Cooley seems like the type of dude to live in Rosslyn and bike across Key Bridge every day
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You also save the money of not needing an 80,000 dollar car for each family member if you live in DC. Means instead of 2 million house and 250K of cars you can do a 3 million dollar house with one nice car.
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How many more tweets until it’s official?
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Big East about to get a makeover. Welcome back to the limelight.
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Ed Cooley is on a path, an inevitable one, that will take him to the Georgetown job. He is approaching the job as we speak on said path. There is no way he can exit this path. But he has not taken the job. According to sources. Stay tuned to my twitter feed.
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https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1637870212417478674?s=46
Would Willy get a look at George Mason?
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This is what everyone thought Larranaga was doing and now he’s been at Miami for 12 years.
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It is a little sad what the state of coaching in the ACC is now. I think we are clearly behind the Big 12, SEC, Big 10, and Big East in coaching. I view ACC coaches in these tiers:
Tier 1 Homeruns
Tony Bennett - UVA
Tier 2 Could Be Homerun, too Early To tell.
Jon Scheyer - Duke
I think Scheyer will be successful consistently at Duke, but it has only been 1 year.
Tier 3 - Old Guys who are proven winners but have probably peaked and could be gone in 5 years.
Leonard Hamilton - FSU
Jim Larranaga - Miami
Tier 4 - Some promise but inconsistent results so far.
Mike Young - VT
Hubert Davis - UNC
Steve Forbes - WF
These guys have created reason for optimism with some big time wins and results, but also some trepidation by missing the tournament and multiple subpar regular seasons. I think Forbes can win consistently at WF despite not making the tournament yet. I think next year is key for him.
Tier 6 - Also-rans that may have success every 3/4 years but seems likely to never rise above mediocrity.
Brad Brownell - Clemson
Kevin Keats - NCSU
Jeff Capel - Pitt
All 3 of these guys could have gotten fired this year if they had bad years. Like Pastner did in 2021, they may have bought themselves another year or two. Their success will likely depend on the transfer portal, esp. Keats and Capel.
Tier 7 - The Rest.
Earl Grant - BC
Kenny Payne - UL
Damon Stoudamire - GT
Red Autry - Syracuse
? - ND
I think Earl Grant is a good coach, but BC is just a moribund program with no real hope to become relevant again. Payne had such a bad year, but lets see if next year shows life, if not, he will be gone most likely. Who knows about the GT/Cuse hires. Autry will likely have some success at Cuse. The ND hire could be a big one.
Compare this list of coaches to the SEC, Big 12, Big East, Big Ten. It is depressing. For the league to be good we need Scheyer, Davis to make Duke/UNC consistently good again, as much as we hate it. Hamilton needs to make FSU relevant again before passing the program off to someone who can keep them that way. Coach L will have Miami relevant more often than not but he will likely retire soon. I think the realistic hope is that Forbes will turn WF into a consistent winner and that Autry may be able to make Syracuse relevant again. I am not sure about Young long term and the rest are just big bag of mediocrity in my opinion.
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If i’m grant i’m angling for that providence job.
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While I agree with the sentiment here, I think it’s also partial unavoidable and part of the process. The ACC has been coaching talent heavy for a long time and part of that means those old guys were due to age out at some point; Roy, K, Boehiem were all closer to the end than the beginning same for Larranaga and Hamilton I think out of that list Larranaga is the only one not to do a 20 year bid? Maybe Roy was a little shorter tenure at UNC.
Outside of Louisville which has had a strange string of bad luck (a lot self-imposed) and maybe Pitt. and ND, none of the other programs are truly traditional powers that have had maintained success sustained runs of success under anyone.
My point being it was always going to be near impossible to replace those top 4-5 guys and then the balance was always going to be a crap shoot of mixed success. Have then been a few extremely bad misses? Yes, but nothing I don’t think can be fixed in the long term.
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Didn’t JWilly’s name get kicked around for the Mason job a few years ago?
Seeing the recent success of long term assistants I feel like JWilly is more likely to land at a low to mid P6 than a true mid-major.
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My own personal fear is that the widening gap in conference money and its impact on schools ability/willingness to pay top $ for coaches and facility upgrades are going to start to rear its head within the coming 5-7 years. This is where I see that impacting college basketball and the ACC directly.
Schools like Ole Miss, Miss State, etc. will be able to offer loads of money, better facilities, and opportunities to coach against legends/great coaches that the ACC schools wont be able to match. It is why this current group of hires is crucial to the ACC. The league needs Scheyer, Davis to return Duke/UNC to consistent elite status. We need Autry to return Syracuse to mostly good, we need ND to get a great hire and return them to consistently good. It would be great if Stoudamire and Forbes can make WF/GT consistently relevant again. I am just not optimistic honestly, and in 4-5 years when these hires may meet the crossroads of being retained/fired the ACC Grant of Rights expiration will be in sight and who the heck knows what happens to the ACC then. I am not optimistic. Hope I am proven wrong.
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Interesting that the Big East has re-established it’s brand, largely helped by retreads! Shaka, Sean Miller, (maybe) Pitino. And Matta, maybe eventually.
I don’t mean to be the guy who’s doing marketing talk, but the ACC needs to re-establish it’s brand a bit. It was always Tobacco Road dominance and enough other guys being good enough for long enough… It got muddled with expansion… It got really good for a while us, and to a lesser extent FSU and ND emerging as powers. And Cuse always making noise in the tourney. But now? It’s an open question…
Edit - I guess my thought here is that there was something attractive about those Big East jobs and schools that’s there separate from having the biggest budgets to compete with the Big Ten and SEC.
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