2023 UVa Offseason Chatter

…and some are a bit TL; DR with their posts…

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You’d likely be alone in that opinion that people would be more upset with IT leaving after contributing to a deep March run than contributing nothing and another first round exit.
Just an opinion. :rofl::rofl:

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Meh- part of the appeal of this board are the fervent opinions that people have, discuss and make an argument for. I ain’t mad at it. With that said you can’t really tell the tone of a person through writing/text messages of a message board “without” a professional editor involved.

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This doesn’t make sense. If he left after a deep tournament run to return to “Creighton” when he could’ve been a part of the success and future success-thereby guaranteeing media attention for a future basketball career then I would have to say that he would be the dumbest, dumbest person in the TB regime that we would have witnessed. He could’ve told his gf to transfer to UVA, unless he’s expecting to live off of a volleyball salary…

Nope.

We’d be super pissed because we’d be a potential title favorite if that were the case.

Regardless, it’s all moot. Just like your presumption that we would have made a run with him, despite the 12 fouls he picked up in the Blue-White game.

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Kid was gone anyway. Doesn’t matter.

I hope she says yes.

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Oh damn. That last picture.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CsMpJE4OLyl/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

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For those that are into the “dawg” thing…. Posting pictures of MJ is a step in the right direction lol.

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https://www.instagram.com/p/CsMr7OuP58t/?igshid=ZWQyN2ExYTkwZQ==

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So apparently we’re not done with undersized point guards?

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Not just undersized point guards. Undersized point guards who can’t space the floor

No great place for this, so sorry in advance for the threadjack.

My wife, who did well today…thought not as well as she deserves, found the 2019 tournament game set for my birthday that year. Discs didn’t play in our player, so I thanked her for the thought and tucked them away.

This weekend I was clearing out some old physical media and realized we’d gotten a new player since then. Popped in Gardner Webb because I had to work that Friday and never saw it. I’m onto Oregon and just watched Kihei foul Amin out of the game. Just priceless.

A real local news story, but boy has it been a great weekend! Hope everybody (and the mothers in their lives) did too.

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Interesting. I’ve pretty much only read the takeaways (and a few of the shooting clips). You’re pretty positive about his impact/role. I haven’t dug into the video / other narrative yet, but I remain a bit skeptical. I mean, if Reece is gone, he’s really our only pure PG, so that probably means a lot of minutes.

But I think the thing about the Kihei comparisons is that Kihei’s #1 attribute was that he was often a just good enough 3-point shooter. Forget the pass to Mamadi, Kihei’s main contribution to the natty was being a just good enough 3-point shooter when multiple teams schemed to leave him open.

Can Harris be a just good enough 3-point shooter? I wasn’t exactly encouraged by your “but just look at how confidently he hits back rim and front rim!” clips. :joy: I’m kidding… I suspect he can improve on ~26% but I’m less confident by how much…

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Good stuff. The big question imo is his decision-making when driving. I think Tony is great at helping to hone players decision-making, but Harris will probably have a decent leash as the only true PG if Beekman doesn’t come back.

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I do think he’ll improve some. He seemed more confident and effective toward the end of 2022 although that’s a small sample size, he’s had a lot of time to work on it since then. That being said, my overall thesis, I’d say, is that he can be a very effective player for us even if that doesn’t improve… as long as we give him some complimentary shooters.

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Thanks. I didn’t have much of an issue with his decision making very often. The occasional drive where he had to force something but that happens to most aggressive guards. Occasionally he’d play just a little too sped up but those issues were often more trying to do something TOO quickly (and he’s super quick) such that it caused a physical issue.

I suppose that could be considered a bad decision but most of the time I thought he had good command of the game was much more unselfish than his teammates made good reads, etc.

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I think we’ll give him other shooters and it won’t cost him a nickel.

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I finished watching the offensive stuff. Thanks as always for your thoughts and taking the time to watch, compile, and organize all the video. Invaluable service.

My takeaway: he’s super fast and quick and great at getting to his spots, but not great at finishing at the rim, and not a good shooter (yet). Some green shots on the shooting with a solid FT%. His best shot seems to be that long two, where he can take advantage of (1) a slightly better range for him (i.e., closer than a 3), (2) his elite first step/move, but (3) not have to worry about finishing amongst the bigs (which he can’t really do that well). I’m a big fan of guys taking that shot if it’s their best shot, but you like it if that’s your 4th option on offense or so, otherwise, meh. He seems like a very good floor general, too.

Plus, another thought about Ewing/Georgetown. And it came to me w/r/t that UConn game you excerpted. My pessimist interpretation of that game based on the play by play, the box score, and your clips is that he basically did not much except wild and erratic drives in the first half, and then they were getting blown out, and then he came alive for some garbage time highlights and box score stuffing (later edit here – but that’s obviously good, too! He didn’t give up; kept fighting; Tony loves that stuff - remember how much he loved our awesome 2H comeback against UNC that took a 15 point halftime deficit and turned it into a 15 point deficit with 5 minutes left? But I’m a cynical jerk, so I’m less sure…). I think the UVa fan motivated reason brain on Harris is that he was misused at Georgetown and Ewing stinks and Tony will be better able to shape the raw material into something deserving of 30ish mpg on an ACC contender. That’s a nice story, and I want to buy in, but there’s another not so nice story where Ewing realized that the kid had the tools I described above, but he couldn’t/shouldn’t let him be the man on a bad team, and wanted to try some different things. Then, that carried over to the offseason where he basically recruited over him and the Georgetown fan blog guy basically thought he had lost the job to Primo. Is the truth closer to the UVa optimist fan story, or my negative nancy story? :man_shrugging:

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Both G’town takes could be true. A guy who’s best offensive skills are long 2s and finishing at the rim when no over over 6’5” is in the zip code should probably not be the man on a team trying to not be bad.

However, G’town’s offense was also trash that forced him to put up more of those shots than one would like. Maybe a better structured offense that benches him after wild drives into the trees and takes advantage of his passing and creation might be better for everyone even if it pushes down his scoring (by making him take a lot less inefficient shots himself).

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