'21 - '22 Outside ACC Basketball Chat

I was thinking the exact same thing. They were a top 5 team at one point last yr and this yr if I recall

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HGN absolutely nailed his Caleb Houston evaluation. I recall him saying he wouldn’t be much of an impact college player before going pro and that’s spot on.

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We could use him right now! haha But yeah we’re probably better off with Milicic in the long run.

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Who’s the bigger fraud? Baylor or Iowa St? I’m going with Iowa St.

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Baylor plays defense like I wish we would… keeps guys in front but heavy pressure and generate early turnovers which generates efficient offense

I wouldn’t mind a bit more half court pressure, but I mostly just miss having dudes like Baylor. We have a relatively short, relatively unathletic, and relatively poor shooting starting lineup. We placed an undersized, under-athletic, floor-bound big, at the center of our plans, and then we decided to play a defensive-minded strategy. :man_shrugging:

Even next year, and I’m beating a dead horse here, it feels like we used to have more Thambas, Cha-chamwa’s, and Sochan’s up on our roster. I like Bond’s potential, but I still wonder if he will be able to defend bigs at the ACC level. (Basically, we need more Diakites, Keys, Atkins, Mitchells, etc.).

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Yeah, our defensive system is amazing… when it’s being executed by amazing athletes. Watching those teams with Brogdon, Anderson, Harris, Gill, Hunter, Diakite, etc. destroy other teams’ will to play was awesome and every bit as impressive as what Baylor or any other defensive team is doing today. We just don’t have the dudes to do it right now sadly.

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Lol now he complains about the defense. You are something else my man.

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Well our defense is mediocre so far isn’t it? Didn’t think wishing we would play a bit differently on that end was far fetched?

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ud think the lack of pressure would result in more rebounds but ranking 329th in team rebounds this season!

How long would it take for Kadin to go to the bench with two fouls against Zach Edey? I think he’d be sitting by the under 16 timeout

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I was watching that game as well, my main takeaway was “imagine if Caffaro had the coordination that Zach Edey does” lol

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NCST is defending terribly right now against VT. Still up, but all VT has to do is drive into the paint and the entire NCST defense collapses on the ball leaving multiple wide open three point shooters. It’s happened a ridiculous number of possessions. They’ve just been lucky that VT hasn’t hit more so far and that they’ve managed to block a few at the rim.

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The Wake annihilation of FSU is a surprise.

FSU is a little off but I figured they’d bounce back and that Wake’s solid record was thanks to a weak schedule. Quite impressive.

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Forbes is a really good coach who got caught up in the Pearl mess. I expect Wake to be a mid-tier ACC team soon and for the foreseeable future as long as he’s there.

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It seems like 12-8 could be enough to be top 4 this year. After Duke, there is just a lot of mediocrity.

Does Caleb Houstan still try to get drafted or is he our starting 3 next year?

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It feels like KenPom’s prior season weighting is doing heavier lifting than normal. I mean, how exactly is Michigan the #27 team in the country even with weighting? They don’t have any genuinely bad losses (though losing to Minnesota at home is close), but their 2nd best win was probably blowing out hapless Nebraska on the road.

Conversely, Wisconsin is somehow only #30? They beat Houston at a neutral site and Purdue at Purdue. Those are some pretty freaking good wins. I get that they should have won by more against some of their patsy opponents, but they still won and they’ve got additional pretty good wins like over St Mary’s at a neutral site and Indiana at home.

How is Wisconsin not ahead of #10 Kentucky, which has lost 3 of the 4 remotely difficult games they’ve played so far (and are the only 4 non-home games they’ve played)? How much mileage should a team really get from repeatedly blowing out the High Point’s and Albany’s of the world?

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All scoring margin. That’s my issue with ratings like KenPom. A blowout win or two can carry more weight than consistent winning.

For Michigan, they’re being carried by two blowouts over inferior but not bottom rung teams, Nebraska and Southern Utah.

Same for Kentucky. The UNC blowout was huge, so was beating Western Kentucky by 30+…

Wisconsin is the opposite. They’re being dragged down by not handling business easily enough against mid-majors, close wins over Illinois State and Nicholls.

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