I think itās both. The institution has shown to be good at identifying good young and/or op and coming coaches.
We donāt discount kids who went to Harvard because the institution turns out mostly good students. I mean, I do, but most people donāt.
No one was too impressed with Tony until year 5. And a lot were done with him at this point in year 5.
Yeah! Get those negative fans who kremlin watch VT and get miserable about itā¦ā¦.. canāt stand those guysā¦.
Odom is fine and Tech will flame out in conference like they always do. But also we should know if Odom is any good much sooner than year 5 in modern CBB.
Agree and fair. But Odom took three lesser teams to the tourney. All Iām saying is itās a crap shoot and we wonāt know for a couple years probably.
Soā¦FSU is down 28 at half to Texas A&M.
ACC once again not really doing itself any favors in the non-conference.
We are in danger of sinking below the Big East as the lowest P5 conference ā¦ again.
Some SEC-ACC wins would help.
Just had an out of body experience watching Pitt and Stanford both win on buzzer beating 3ās within minutes of each other.
HOLY SMOKES!!! Did you see the end of the Pitt/Ohio State game? A prayer three for Pitt goes down and wins at the buzzer. Wow. What a shot, and s solid win for the ACC.
St. Louis lost from fouling up 3ā¦did it a little too early. Make one miss one rebound game winner.
If SMU pulls off this win, they will have had a sneaky good ooc so far. Should be ranked
Respectfully disagree. Not that it isnāt a relatively good ooc schedule, but Mississippi State is just not good.
SLU and OSU are two big wins for teams that should be at the bottom of the conference roster wise. A little worried about OSU, getting taken to the wire by ND and Pitt isnāt a great look. Computers seems to think theyāll be ok. Was hoping that would be a big OOC game for us.
Trying to draw lines after four weeks
Tier One: Duke, Louisville
Tier Two: North Carolina, Clemson, Virginia, Miami, SMU (computers donāt like them but the resume is undeniable)
Tier Three: NC State, Wake
Tier Four: Syracuse, Notre Dame, VT, Cal, FSU, Stanford (?)
Tier Five: Pitt
Tier Six: BC, Georgia Tech
Could see an argument for UNC in their own tier but Iām not completely sold. Will know more after this week.
Wonāt really know about Heels til Trimble is back.
Yeah, agree with @DavetheWave , UNC looked like it was on par with Louisville and Duke when Trimble was healthy.
Iām also not burying NC State yet. Iād still peg them to get it together and finish top 5 or so.
To me at this point you have Duke and UL as the top two, GT and BC as the bottom two and the other 14 could beat each other on any given night.
I do think when all is said and done it will be:
Tier 1: Duke, UL (Final Four worthy teams)
Tier 2: UNC, UVA, NC State, Clemson, SMU (I think these teams should make the tourney)
Tier 3: Miami, Wake Forest, Notre Dame, VT, Cuse (I think these teams could be bubblish, and 1 or 2 could jump to the tier above them. They have reason to believe they could be a tourney team)
Tier 4: FSU, Pitt, Cal, Stanford. (Not consistent enough to be a real tourney threat, but could beat anyone not in tier 1 on a given night).
Tier 5: GT, BC (Time for new coaches.)
Iād probably swap Miami and SMU, but otherwise thatās my tier list too.
I think I like the SMU team, somewhere in that tier 2 level anyway. Theyāre probably a fair bit better than last year, should dance.
Iād be really interested in watching SMU-Vandy next Wednesday if it didnāt tip off at the same time as our game. Should be a good one.
Agree - they look legit