šŸ€ ACC Men's Basketball - Week 9: 30 December 2024 - 5 January 2025

This is why unionization is important. Not just because the union could collectively bargain with the NCAA, the CFP and/or their schools, but the union also provides education to the players on their rights and responsibilities. It could also screen or approve agents to prevent members from being taken advantage of. It can review contracts to make sure members aren’t being taken advantage of. It could provide tax advice and services for less financially literate members. It could provide financial literacy courses.

But many people are opposed, including the NCAA, schools, some politicians and some people who also criticize the athletes for asking to be paid and getting what they deserve.

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I think this gets at the issue. It’s not that nobody involved is aware of what a contract is. It’s that if they had to reduce it to writing, the agreement would be pretty squishy on the actual figures.

I suspect that if Leonard and co were smart about this, they made sure to say all the disclaimers (eg, if my partner comes through), but I guess that’s now for a jury of the great state of Florida to figure out (unless of course FSU wisely caves and settles this if they want to ever get a decent player there again).

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Oral contracts are valid in Virginia for most things except real estate. But proving an oral contact as binding is a whale of an issue. And statute of limitations for oral contracts was 2 years (vs 5 for written) the last time I checked.

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That’s only relevant if future players remember this and who’s going to remind them? The non-existent union? Self-interested agents?

Google? Do kids know how to google? Or have they moved on to wrong answers only from Gen AI? :wink:

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Google doesnt even google no more. They AI so…

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This is @haney ’s best take ever! Maybe the best take on the board all-time.

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My best take ever is a crowded field. :fire:

So many contenders. #Humility pillar

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The great thing about a UVA forum…you never need to ask if there’s a lawyer in the house. Just post, and receive instant legal analysis.

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The lawyer for the plaintiffs posted a copy of the lawsuit, for those wanting to do more analysis:

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Not a lawyer, but this part raised my eyebrows:

On or about February 18, 2023, Hamilton promised Darin Green, Jr. $250,000.00 if he played for FSU during the 2023-24 men’s basketball season and stated to Darin that the NIL money would come from his ā€œsources,ā€ which Hamilton characterized as his business partners.

A coach saying he’ll fund payments through his business partners should be an enormous red flag.

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Conversely, if you ever ask for anything useful…
Landscape Tumbleweed GIF

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Goes back to our original problem. We arent good at cheating.

Dang lawyers

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For whatever reason, I feel like I watch other teams play all the time and we never play.

Quite a show of support from FSU for Hamilton:

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FSU: ā€œWe support Hamilton’s right to lose this case so we can fire him for causeā€.

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Somehow worse than the dreaded ā€œvote of confidenceā€ that portends a firing. ā€œWe gave Coach a number for a good lawyer. Not our lawyer though, we didn’t get sued.ā€

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I was wondering last night if the lawsuit was agaisnt Hamilton or the program and if it was Hamilton how would that be handled… i got my answer

Nights Talladega GIF

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FSU going from legit threat to absolute laughing stock so quickly will be studied for years. TV $ got them messed up.

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Miami on the midseason coaching change adrenaline rush, pounding BC early.

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