Also sinking in that just collecting one and dones doesn’t work consistently. Need to change their approach but it’s hard to turn down one and done talent
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Let’s keep perspective, it’s spilled over for diehard Virginia and Duke fans. The rest of the world has moved on.
Me I’m hanging with my boy Travis Kelce.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1624923120481234944
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So hard to get away from doing it that way right? Not sure what Scheyers leash is but would take 3-4 years to change unless you can talk number 30 and crew into staying in school
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It’s part of acc discussion this morning. Instead of Scheyer just moving on, he’s continuing to complain. Rather than just say lets move on, he’s complaining. Also, the call at the end was compared a lot to the uva game.
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I very much enjoyed TB’s postgame comments about Scheyer and Duke, which was pretty much like “they have a nice young team, Scheyer is a good young coach,” which is how you normally expect him to talk about a feisty mid-pack ACC team, not the team that came into the season ranked top-10 with the #1 recruiting class.
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Got to think the one and done train is slowing for Duke. Part of that was driven by the prestige of Coach K. Scheyer epically stumbling out of the gate will put a damper on some of that. Problem is, I’m not sure Scheyer can coach his way out if he goes the traditional route.
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Yeah, the lack of clarity at the time messed up the narrative permanently. If it had been made clear during the game that the foul was called on Dunn, not Reece, then we’d all see that it was a post-buzzer foul and would be arguing over how that should be litigated in the rules. That would be a better (though still bitter) discourse.
Instead we’re in a weird spot where a widespread (but incorrect) belief has been established that a foul was called on Reece with 0.2 seconds left and yet was overturned. And that narrative, with the associated screenshot, is what’s going to stick for the next 30 years.
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Might just be the contrarian in me, but I’m buying stock in Scheyer longer term. I think he knows and is trying to fix the two big issues with latter-day K: (1) relying on OADs makes roster construction way too much of a roller coaster, and (2) game day in-game coaching needed to be updated / improved.
I think he’s got a decent team that had some bad luck for most of the season. Let’s see if he can make it into something.
I think beating them with a fully healthy roster (probably less than 100% Whitehead but I doubt we get that in college) was a really nice win for us. Almost makes me re-think what I think the reasonable upside for the Hoos is… 
[sorry eyes emoji, I said almost]
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Precisely correct. They realize that Scheyer does not have in-game protection the way K did. Judgement calls will now go against them at a fair rate. Their stuffed OAD rosters are not getting it done anymore. See Kentucky as well. The model is dead and they are facing an ugly transition.
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I might be more worried about @BC than home Clemson. Neither game worries me for the record. Some really weak opponents down the stretch which hopefully means some more minutes for Dunn and some “get right” time for Shedrick.
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I’ve been saying that for years. The OAD approach that Duke and Kentucky have been following isn’t resulting in championships. Experience matters. In both cases, the one chips they each won came with a couple of key experienced players who played major roles in their tournament success.
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Sorry, guys, but how many multi-year recruits does Scheyer have to take from us before we realize he’s changing the recruiting focus at least a little bit? For me, it was one. Maybe more of you will realize it once he takes Jarin Stevenson… (sorry to give away the ending)
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I think more to the point too is that you are less likely to see truly transcendent players play college basketball. This year, the top two picks will be non college players. You’re still going to get elite players but I think g league is going to be the place where a lot of these players go.
Agree with this. But he needs to make a big strategic choice: Keep going for one-and-done top talent or open things up and be willing to develop.
Honestly if most of their roster stuck around next year I’d say he had a nice thing going. But they won’t.
The one and done thing is super risky, and definitely a bad way to establish yourself as a coach.
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Probably top 3 with Scoot, Wembanyama, and Amen Thompson. But I think the Thompson twins and Scoot both made their OTE/G-league decisions before the current NIL rules. And Wemby is international, so always a special case. We are seeing more international guys play in college, I think, but the top guys like Luka and Wmby probably won’t.
You may be right, admittedly I have not watched Scheyer close enough to know if he has the chops to cut it at Duke. From what I’ve seen I think everything you said makes sense. Unfortunately for him, I’m not sure he will be allowed the grace period to show it. If UofL is flirting with firing their coach, how much of a leash does Scheyer get? It’s not fun being the guy who follows the guy, and he might be penalized for poor timing. I could see him being a guy who pops up 10 yrs for now at a GT after a pit stop in a mid-major and he’s got his system and style established.
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Hold me now?
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I don’t think nil will matter as much as when you can make a $1 million a year honing your craft with the ignite and not having to worry about classes or the whims of a college coach potentially on a hot seat.
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This Gif is from the Thompson Twins on Soul Train, from Dec. 14, 1985. The episode also featured Doug E. Fresh and the Get Fresh Crew, and the Jets (featuring Mark Atuiaia’s wife on vocals).
Well if that doesn’t tie it all together nicely…
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