Well taine is going to be here in 2024-25, right? Presumably he will be at least slightly better by then and beekman will be gone so lots of guard minutes open up. We need to develop him too so we can count on his minutes.
Just don’t understand why the common thought is we should take taine’s minutes away and give them to Eli. They both should be getting consistent minutes imo.
I like the way Rohde thinks and he makes some real nice passes and seems to understand the movements and spacing pretty well, but that seems to be the portal miss to me especially now that minor is playing better. And we have two more years of Rohde after this one.
Mike Curtis has his work cut out for him. If Rohde can’t get significantly quicker/more explosive in the lower body he is going to be Jared reutered imo (good kid, solid skills, just not athletic enough for acc).
Harris not 100% back and got couldn’t stay in front of his man last night. Also - Harris not a shooter (at least hasn’t proven that any more than Eli this year)
I loved Dante’s energy last night and welcome his return - he just ain’t any more completing the at Eli while he is still hobbled.
I’ve become a bit of a player body language decipherer (?) myself and agree completely. In fact A Rob, Gertrude, and Bliss are all really into it on the sidelines.
Harris is especially fun to watch in that department. He gets hyped for everyone. He, Bond, and Dunn are the team’s best hype men
True but I was stating what I would like to see not positing what the team is likely to do.I am of the opinion that this year we will be early out if we do somehow make the tournament and our best investment is in building for next year.
I don’t disagree that it will likely not unfold that way.
I just don’t think Eli fits our system. Same as I think Casey is a good player that didn’t fit our system. We aren’t going to change who we are. Can Eli change the type of player he is?
Slasher, rhythm shooter, beat you on defense through athleticism / skill v. calculated, spot shooter, know your role in team defense.
I think the limited possessions - not only minutes - really put a lot of pressure offensively on freshman.
Elijah doesn’t fit the system. Rohde is struggling to adapt to the system. Bond doesn’t fit the system. We need to have multiple ballhandlers and initiators to run the system, but for a while, we didn’t. Minor struggled to adapt to the system so badly that he was unplayable for months. iMac isn’t really thriving in the system because he’s not hitting the mid-rangers that the system gives him. It’s just the demands of the system that we have to prioritize limiting turnovers over scoring.
Conclusion: must be the personnel, I guess. No other answer out there.
(fwiw, on the most recent episode of Hoos Hoopin, @kjwilliams612 gets to this point, and then kinda stops, too. This is basically what we can expect from the system, and we can’t just get rid of the system…
… but what this book presupposes is … what if we could?)
You can hammer your keyboard all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that it takes most guys a while to get comfortable playing in any “system” in college basketball. Period. (fwiw system is a dumb way to describe most teams including ours - it suggests a level of structure and continuity that doesn’t bear out in practice).
Look. We’ve seen wildly different styles of player thrive playing Virginia basketball (which I’m told is a system that doesn’t really change, therefore the lessons of those very different players should be instructive to the present).
It simply is not a surprise that a bunch of first and second year players aren’t clicking on all cylinders if you look historically at our teams OR at most other college basketball teams!
But by all means, keep drilling the point until people are too tired to respond. Changing a guys minutes from 6 to 10 is not going to address the core concern you have.
I mean, yea lol I tend to think the issues the last 3-4 years are pretty much all ‘Tony the GM’ issues rather than ‘Tony the in season coach’ issues. Look at our rate of All ACC players pre and post Covid. Haven’t produced an NBA guard since Ty. Think it’s pretty obvious there has been a skill deficit the last few seasons
I think Gertrude should be getting some of Rohde’s minutes regardless of Dante’s health status, but it would help a lot if he could make 3s and it doesn’t seem like can either, albeit small sample size. Taine’s shot looks way better than Rohde and Gertrude and I think he deserves more minutes as well because of it. I’m confident Gertrude would take care of the ball if he plays a passive role on offense like Rohde. Seems like his turnovers come when he tries to be aggressive
So if it’s really an issue of newer personnel, then how do you explain the absolute abomination that was the 2019-2020 offense? That roster was generally very experienced outside of the two guard and yet it’s one of the worst offenses a P5 team has put out in the past decade.
The larger issues is that these issues have been very consistent since the national title and the personnel has been different across those years
Elijah reminds me of Jamal Robinson in his first year. Athletic, flashy guards from NYC/NJ. Yes, Jamal had a lot of up-and-down head-scratching moments, but JJ gave Jamal minutes during the ACC regular season, and in practice with the starters, and he was ready by the end of the year. Without him, we wouldn’t have beaten a stacked Duke team in the 1994 ACC tournament semifinals. Duke went on to lose to Arkansas in the championship game that year.
Hoo remembers this little gem to put the game away against Duke in the final minute?
Sometimes you live with the “bad” to reap the benefits of the “good.” I think Elijah has a lot of good in him, and with regular non-garbage minutes, he can become a game-changer this year. But it’s got to start soon…
It’s a lot of issues. Not just newer personnel. I was just responding to the claim that it looks like a lot of our young guys don’t fit our system. Yeah, it looks like young guys don’t fit systems in college hoops, because they are young and it’s hard. I’m not extrapolating anything bigger than that.
We need a leg swap for Rohde. Not much fast twitch in there. Barring that, he might want to shoot 1000 3 balls per day and learn a post up game he can use against 5-10 guards.
